pre combine Lions Mockserbation™
'tis the season... As pointless as it is to ever think I, or anyone, can reliably predict what any team will do, it's fun to try. It also can be informative to see how others view players or team needs.
A few things to know about this mock:
- I couldn't give 2 shits where Mayock, Kiper, or any other time filling TV blowhard has them projected right now. I've probably seen the same report. Where do YOU have them projected, and why. There's no doubt what they, or even the mock community at whole, says will influence the thoughts and predictions. It's just not everything is it? It's just going to change in a week, month, whenever for a lot of guys anyway so think freely.
- If you want to waste your time typing a reply that simply says "no way __ is drafted at __ spot" without any reasoning, go ahead, you're going to get a big wide /yawn from me and likely others. This is to get some talk about the players and perhaps why you think they'll be drafted at a certain spot. Let's hear what YOU think about them. Have you seen them play? Any other info?
Ok enough with the preachy bullshit, how about some mockserbation™!
First round:
Mike Adams LT, OhHowIhateOhioState Besides the obvious flaws in where he chose to play ball the kid can play! I'm not going to say he's the most ready now, but yet I believe he's the real deal. I was a bit on the fence but he's won me over. I wouldn't have a problem with plugging him in right away... well in week 6 when he's eligible. That's my only knock on him, but what's part of a season when you have a healthy and reliable long term starter coming aboard
alternate pick: Janoris (how's the weather up there) Jenkins, CB Exile U He's a baller and can hang with the big physical guys so his height doesn't mean a whole lot. He'll press, he'll zone, he'll m2m, he'll get shit done. If they went the route of picking him first instead I'd be so happy with it I'd forgive Backus (or Fox) coming back to start. That's the big question on taking Adams, are they ready to move on from Fox cus he aint moving to RT.
Second round:
Brandon Boykin, CB Georgia Even if they took JJ in the first I could still get on board with Boykin. I'm left to wonder how he'll end up getting drafted now that he has the broken leg. No combine, will he drop? Is he still clearly BPA if he were to fall this far, yes! The first gain is g'bye Logan, thanks for the promise and fun season. 2nd sit a year or so and get a feel for the pro level, then come in and ball I don't have a problem with 2 CB being drafted this year at all. We need the depth. I wouldn't be so pleased if it was 1st and 2nd picks tho so I think JJ and BB are an either or situation.
alternate pick round 2: Ben Jones, C Georgia This guy would rock! I'm not going to say he's as smooth as Konz, but he's got game. He's the firebrand bull in the center that Raiola can only talk about being. I think he's everything they've wanted from Raiola but not been able to get. I wont say his ceiling is pro bowl, but I wont say it isn't :)
Third round:
Shea McClellin, DE Boise State I'm pegging him to come in as a DE for the Lions. This kid knows a few things really well. First off how to get after the QB, hand down, up, inside, outside, push, deke, you name it. He'll have to bulk up a bit if he wants to get away with the bull rush in the pros but I think he could. Beyond that, he could also be used as an excellent alternative to Tulloch in the middle, or sS. YUP! He's got solid coverage skills and speed to hang with TE. He's a helluva tackler and can work the run. If standing in the middle I believe he's got the eyes to cover a few gaps while being a great spy. He'd also give Gunny some great options for center blitzes. Gunny has missed having such an option and would likely shift him over there from time to time even if he is regularly playing DE. I believe he's hugely undervalued and the mock community will wake up to him along the way.
alternate pick round 3: Josh Norman, CB BFE (Coastal Carolina) Ok, I'll confess I haven't seen him play in a full game, so I'm basing this pick off the mock community and game/practice recaps along with highlight type stuff. Everything I hear and see of Josh is so favorable! He obviously plays fast and has some vertical. If he's gotten this good (still probably a bit rough, I haven't seen anything of overall technique) with the lesser competition at Coastal Carolina just imagine how well he could develop in the pros! Call this a hunch pick.
Round 4:
Brandon Brooks, OG Miami (OH) Another guy that I've got limited exposure to but love what I've seen. He's the big mauler of a mamu I want inside for the run game. I have to hope with some NFL level conditioning and coaching he'll only get better. He's already seemingly quite sound in support of the run. He showed some solid plant and redirect at E/W and I think if he gets some big league coaching on technique he'll be just fine in pass support. It's seems like a pretty good year for guards or I'd be placing him higher.
alternate pick round 4: Markus Zusevics, OT (OG) Iowa I'm rating him at G but he's experienced across the line. He doesn't have the snap or quickness to play blindside but inside is another story. While I haven't seen him on the right I have to wonder if he'd be just fine in place of Cherilus, with a bit of time to season. While not the man mountain Brooks is, he does have the strength to really hold up well against the big body tackles coming at him. He's also rangy enough to open up the playbook for guards that Brooks might be more limited from. I'm not sure either would be considered likely to come in year 1 and start, but hey in the 4th it's no guarantee anyone will.
Round 5:
Mike Brewster, OC OSU There's the talent here for him to easily go higher. I'm mockserbating him to drop, like good centers usually do. I don't see him as the firebrand of Jones but he's perhaps a bit more all around solid player even. I'd be pleased with him to come in, perhaps season up behind the midget and learn what not to do and maybe what to do.
alternate pick round 5: Akiem Hicks, DT BFE (Regina, Canada) Ok, another guy I've only got limited exposure to. In fact before a couple weeks ago I had never heard of him. That said, he lit it up at the E/W and I've read enough raves of him why not take a long shot and throw him in. He seems like a great addition to the rotation and at a bargain price. So what if he's a year on the PS. Then again if they move CW, or Flu perhaps he can come on and at least provide some depth. We all know DT isn't a position of need and I'd cuss like a sailor if they pick one early. At round 5, who cares if they see the talent potential I think he might have, go for it!
Round 7: I don't have enough lotion to Mockserbate™ to the 7th today. I'm sure I'll mock 1 more time after the combine so I'll try and lube up the picks for then.
I hope you enjoyed! Now let's hear what you think!!
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Nicely done
don’t have real objections to this mock. I am very high on Mike Adams. Saw him play in the Senior Bowl, he really stood out. The guy was a rock against several different types of DEs. That kinda tells he me he does some film watching. I thought Jenkins was solid as well. Great tackler, good instincts.
McClellin is an interesting pick in the 3rd. When I did my mock I had him pegged as more of a 3-4 or an OLB in a 4-3 scheme. Mainly due to his size(6’3 248lb), and the Minny Senior Bowl staff had him practicing as a OLB. But now I have read that he put on a few pounds and is at 255lb. The guy can flat out play football. So you can not miss with him where ever you line him up at.
Norman I really like he. 6’0 203lb good size for a CB. I am not all that high on Boykin. He had one play in the Senior Bowl where he got turned around on a simple skinny post route. I do understand his value as a returner though. And would be on board with that as his primary duties as he gets coached up at CB.
Charles Aaron "Bubba" Smith 1945 - 2011 R.I.P.
would you
take a kr guy that high with the way the rules have made ppl like logan a non factor?
a CB that has a very good skill as a PR and a KR
take a kr guy that high with the way the rules have made ppl like logan a non factor?
Well, since the league average in KR went up and there were 5 more TDs than last season. If Logan was made to be a non-factor with the new rules, than yes.
Charles Aaron "Bubba" Smith 1945 - 2011 R.I.P.
that's one of the reasons Boykin gets on the list in my mind
Well that and I have to think he’s nice and trainable too.
Individuals should protect themselves. Governments can't protect individuals from themselves, it's just impossible, otherwise they become a tyranical state. -Ron Paul
As the Lions cap number grows
they will no longer have the luxury of having a bunch of guys that can only contribute to one aspect of the game.
Charles Aaron "Bubba" Smith 1945 - 2011 R.I.P.
Mike Adams
Mike Adams absolutely looks the part of an NFL OT. My only concern with him is consistency, but the talent is there. If he were to be available at 23rd overall, and especially with Backus’ recent injury and age, I wouldn’t hesitate to select him. He impressed at the Senior Bowl, however, and it may be wishful thinking to believe that he’ll still be available when the Lions are on the clock.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/37792/big-decision-lions-and-jeff-backus
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it ~Aristotle
by BriansLions on Jan 31, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
I can't tell ya how much I'd actually like
Jenkins and Norman coming in this year. It’s hard to have too much talent at CB and that gives a likely starter and a solid development guy. I flip back and forth between these guys and others that I like but the ones listed are all guys I’d be delighted to get here.
Individuals should protect themselves. Governments can't protect individuals from themselves, it's just impossible, otherwise they become a tyranical state. -Ron Paul
Nice mock. Some thoughts.
Not sure about Mike Adams in the first. He has the physical gifts but not the technique right now. I would be big on Cordy Glen in the first and I’m becoming a fan of Jenkins as well.
Would love to get a center this year. All Konz talk aside I would like Brewster or the C from Georgia. The idea of getting two lineman from the same school is intreging and with all the talent out there not impossible.
by Northern Lite on Jan 31, 2012 10:46 AM EST via mobile reply actions
excellent thought
That really could be something to end up with Glenn and Jones from GA! While they don’t have the exact chemistry of working together like they would be here, I can see the thought process of having them together.
Question for you (or others), if you had to pick 1 of them Glenn costing a 1st or Jones costing a 2nd which would you pick?
Individuals should protect themselves. Governments can't protect individuals from themselves, it's just impossible, otherwise they become a tyranical state. -Ron Paul
I would rather grab Brewster.
Jones in the second seems like a reach to me but I would take him in the third no problem. Brewster I would be happy to find in the fourth, and ecstatic to grab him in the 5th.
by Northern Lite on Feb 1, 2012 8:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I actually voted
Shea McClellin (as LB) because I think he is an option but my actual best fit for 3-5 is Boykin. I only saw him play a little but I have read at least 15 scouting reports that say his technique is a little raw. (although it has been stated he continually improved at the SB)
Now with the leg break it is going to be hard for him to be in good enough shape to impress at the combine. Unless he has a mammoth pro-day at Georgia I think he slips to the third and fits exactly what MaySchwartz look for. I am a “big db guy” but you asked for fit.
as an asside
Boykin has tweeted he’ll be back in 3 weeks so he could still show for the combine. But how well?
by Lionsickness on Jan 31, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
McClellin
Also has some ball skills too. He had several interceptions in his career and, against Toledo last year, even had a pick six. Could be cause he played as a RB all through high school. As a huge BSU fan (not quite alum…yet) I’m all kinds of excited to see even more of my boys going to the Lions. Realistically speaking, any one of the four between George Iloka (safety), Doug Martin (RB), Nate Potter (left tackle), or Shea McClellin could end up a Lion.
by trigga mike! on Jan 31, 2012 6:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
oh ya, I'd love to see more Boise players here!
Granted, Shea is the one I want most. Iloka almost made this list but I just couldn’t find myself hoping they’d spend the pick on S at this point. If they do I could see him being a great cost (pick) effective tough option for them. I’m all for Martin too, but cringe at thinking of having to pick yet another RB :/ I like Potter in college, but not sure how he’ll do in the pros. He’s a good quick guy who’s great in PP but he seemed to really get pushed around at times. I don’t know if he can ever get strong enough or balanced enough to take on the bigger guys. If it was only speed rushers he’d have to deal with I’d love to get him.
I’m curious to hear more of your, and others, thoughts on Shea. Do you see him only as a LB in the pros? Do you think he’s strong or able to be strong enough to have a hand down? I’m a bit mixed on it as I think he’s a lot better than Willie Young was at this stage of career, I mean a lot better. He’s also a comparable size iirc. I have no problem viewing him as a SOLB for us tho too. It is nice to have a guy who can hang with the TE of this age, do you see that as Shea? I’m not sold on that as much as I am him as a pass rusher tho.
Individuals should protect themselves. Governments can't protect individuals from themselves, it's just impossible, otherwise they become a tyranical state. -Ron Paul
I don't know about Potter yet either
Early mocks, before this season, had him going in the 1st, but I agree that with his build, day two or three is more likely. I think he can get stronger though. His footwork is where his talent is, like Ryan Clady before him. He’s got the frame for more bulk, it’s just going to take a little time. Shea is the same way. I could see him adding another 10 lbs of muscle and moving just as well with it. It’s amazing what a combination of hitting peak physical growth and an NFL strength training program/facilities will do for a lot of these guys.
I think Shea could be a great multi-dimensional player. I think he certainly could become a great player at exclusively LB or DE, depending on how he builds his body. Playing him as a hybrid is probably the most likely. As I posted above, I feel like an underrated part of McClellin’s game is that he can actually ballhawk pretty well. You can go back and look at his 2008/2009 BSU film when they played him outside a decent amount and the boy had picks.
Check out his pick six on this vid at the 2:09 mark (watch the whole thing if you want to see him kill QBs and some Iloka too—#8 and #92) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52jBmtG4h00
In 2010, he had 9.5 sacks, but he was sharing the field with players (Billy Winn, Ryan Winterswyk, Tyrone Crawford, Chase Baker) that had as much of a reputation for creating pressure when they played at BSU, and on a defense that led the nation in sacks that year. The next year, the entire defense hugely underperformed—getting down to your fourth string corners will do that to you—but he still had 2.5 sacks in the opener against Georgia’s o-line.
So, yeah, I think he could perform with his hand in the dirt on a good portion of his snaps, but taking most of them from a linebacker spot still gives him the ability to rush the passer while utilizing his exceptional coverage skills for a man his size. 6’3" 248, is not too bad at all for an OLB, especially one that gets to cover Visanthe Schiancoe, Jermichael Finley, and Kellen Davis—who will perform much better in Chicago now that the Martz disease has been eradicated.
i thought
mocksterbation was when a kids father catches him in the act, then tells all his friends and they nickname him Jizz.
Mike Adams
He reminds me of Orlando Pace. I watched all the senior bowl practices and he is off the charts. He just hounds all rushers away from the quarterback. He is excellent. I think if he lost about 10 pounds imagine him at LT. Pick Doug Martin RB in the second. Pick a Boise player in the third and Brewster in the 4th and pick a LB in the 5th.
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