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NEW ORLEANS, LA - JANUARY 07:  Matthew Stafford #9 of the Detroit Lions dives for the touchdown against Will Smith #91 of the New Orleans Saints during their 2012 NFC Wild Card Playoff game at Mercedes-Benz Superdome on January 7, 2012 in New Orleans, Louisiana.  (Photo by Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images)

I was hoping the post-game thread for tonight would be titled, "Back to Green Bay we go." Instead, following their 45-28 loss to the New Orleans Saints, the Detroit Lions' season has come to an end. An ugly loss like that with so many blown opportunities (and blown calls) certainly is tough to take, but it should not overshadow what the Lions accomplished this season. It was a lot of fun to watch this team make the playoffs, win 10 games and show the world how good Matthew Stafford and Calvin Johnson are. The building blocks for championships are there, and it's much nicer going into the offseason knowing that the Lions are a few players away from being championship caliber instead of a few players away from merely potentially being .500.

The recap for this game will be up in a bit, and next week we will wrap up 2011 and look ahead to the offseason. In the meantime, I want to say thank you, Lions, for providing fans with the first season we can be proud of in a long, long time.

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And Berry while you're at it

Our draft picks should be quality DBs

In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.

by Boeschlander on Jan 7, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

c'mon man get serious

were talkin about what its gonnna take. get outa here with that shit

by dfwLions on Jan 7, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, not cool...

I was actually a Gerald Alexander fan….sad face. haha

LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! GO STEFAN LOGAN!

by BBlades on Jan 8, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

true because it was the titus young pick checkmate sir

and yes Mr.Irrellevant was a stud, defiantly would’ve made Drew Brees have nightmares for weeks with RAMZEE mother-effing Robinson in the secondary. whatcha gonna do!

First time caller longtime listener should be banned from the radio

by Brad Wesley James Hines on Jan 8, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Even Titus Young is a better tackler than Samuel

you see how he wrapped up his man after he whiffed on that reception

First time caller longtime listener should be banned from the radio

by Brad Wesley James Hines on Jan 8, 2012 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

if this wasnt a playoff game, delmas probly waits one more week

delmas is good but its time to upgrade over the phonz. i wish him all the best, but not on this team!

by dfwLions on Jan 7, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Man...

Asante Samuel would have look great out there last night!!

by D-Lion on Jan 8, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

the refs aided

with all the no holding penelties that they didnt call

by patchofblack on Jan 7, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

at least 5 no calls on saints holding.

i lost my voice screaming holding all night

by dfwLions on Jan 7, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I counted at least 20

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 7, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

how many plays did the saints run?

take that number and times it by two and thats how many Holding calls they missed

by patchofblack on Jan 7, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

last count I saw with playcount

was around 65-70

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by MuleRules on Jan 7, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Then it was probably something like 50 holds

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 7, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

i saw atleast

a clear and obvious hold on every TD and big play the Saints had

by patchofblack on Jan 7, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I think once the line realized they could get away with it in the 1st quarter

they held on every play.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 7, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

ive watched a lot of games

but that was one of the worst officiated games ive seen. Brees is great with a normal amount off time, hes Unbeatable with the refs giving him more time Via holds

by patchofblack on Jan 7, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

same here, every third down completion, big play or touchdown

Lions being held, usually arm wrapped around one or dam near taking off of jersey

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by jalf on Jan 8, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I felt like I was the only one that saw that

its comforting knowing other people saw it too.

by Wheaties on Jan 8, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea I agree

Most QBs can do well when it’s no pressure in their face ever

by SouthOf8Mile on Jan 7, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Players v Scheme

I am not entirely convinced it is the quality of players that is the problem, because the scheme may be the problem. No, we do not have elite players in the secondary but there are enough examples out there to show that a good scheme does not always require elite players. It may be time to consider a replacement for Gunther, but better, more intelligent, and more well paid people will be deciding that soon. 2011-2012 was a fun ride.

by Johno731 on Jan 7, 2012 11:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Amen!

This was a wonderful season. Go Lions!!!!!! We will be back.

by rekar on Jan 7, 2012 11:24 PM EST reply actions  

and a running game

and then we are unstoppable. saints showed us importance of a run game tonight. but we are right there. knockin on the door. good season lots to work with. just need a secondary and a run game.

by dfwLions on Jan 7, 2012 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

im tired of these what if draft picks

i want sure fire guys. the fords and mayhew need to see how close we are and make a major, blockbuster trade. sign forte for a trillion dollars… idont care what it takes. some how or a way we need a big time running back and a big time corner. but hey, its really sweet to be sitting here talkin about 2 things we need to get us to the superbowl!

by dfwLions on Jan 7, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

we draft well

but it seems to take 3 years to get anything out of 1/2 of them. we are to close to wait that long. i hope like hell that leshoure is a badass. but we are sitting talkin about what he did in college, not the NFL. i want aguy with a body of work. forte would fit real nice into this offense. kinda like sproles in N.O. immediatly we become unstoppable. and gerald alexander is not an upgrade. c’mon fool! maybe its time to start using draft picks to upgrade now, you know, like the patriots do. it works. just sayin!

by dfwLions on Jan 7, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you heard of the Salary cap?

We’ve got a lot of guys with expiring contracts. Tulloch, Wright, Avril. It will be interesting to see who we bring back and what new guys we bring in.

by Eddie Apoc on Jan 7, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Avril and Tulloch should be back

let the other guys leave, trade Houston or Williams for picks if need be, rebuild the secondary, pray like hell that the O-Line can last another year.

You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 7, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm unsure as well

Avril’s gonna want elite money, but he hasn’t sold me on being an elite end. Tulloch I definitely want.

You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 7, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I’d like Avril back, but the world won’t end if he’s gone next year.

You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 7, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

when you move draft picks intelligently you dont have to worry about salary cap too much

i dont give a crap about salary cap. the time is now. we are too close to be talkin about salary cap. there is a way and mayhew will find it.

by dfwLions on Jan 7, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

eddie, your makin it tough

i want to hate you right now but your makin it hard. but gerald alexander…? you make it hard there too man. stop messin with my emotions for one day. your seious here but not up top. get it together man.

by dfwLions on Jan 8, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

think of the picks we had last year and before

How many rookies per draft class really come in and go all world?
they may contribute but most rookies has uneven seasons.
I thought Amari looked good early in the season before he got hurt.

by BillySimsMadeMeDo on Jan 8, 2012 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Sad about the game

Amped about the season. Great job by the lions! Super Bowl 2013!

by Arrogant on Jan 7, 2012 11:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

well said Sean

I’m really not that upset. of course I wanted the Lions to win and I hate that they lost in a game like that, but the future for this team is very bright. These Lions are not going to go away, they’re only going to get better.

by nuftjedi on Jan 7, 2012 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

Thank you Lions

for bringing the roar back to Detroit

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by MuleRules on Jan 7, 2012 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

we had no pass rush

not surprising seeing as how there were atleast 2 holds on every play that werent called very disappointed in the officiating

by patchofblack on Jan 7, 2012 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

Fuck the NFL

Hey Brees, you need another rat to gnaw that shit off your face. FUCK OFF CHEATER

by LionGuy016 on Jan 7, 2012 11:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Why?

Why even post that? Ignorant bull shit. That makes Lions fans look bad.

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by Bighaircut on Jan 8, 2012 4:51 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I'm pretty upset with how that game went.

But its not the Saints fault the officials fixed the game. Its not the Saints fault that we cant tackle.

by Eddie Apoc on Jan 8, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup

Officiating sucked. Tackling sucked. Coverage sucked. Saints played well.

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by Bighaircut on Jan 8, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Once again,

I’m going to miss the football season, and you guys at this blog. See you all in April (I may hop in time to time during the times between). Special thanks to everyone and Sean for making this the best Lions blog in the whole internets. Thank you Lions for the great year, going to miss the anticipation every week, and excited for what’s to come. GOOOO LIONS!!!

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by Lions & Panthers Fan on Jan 7, 2012 11:26 PM EST reply actions  

No doubt

I’m excited looking ahead. We’ve turned the corner, now it’s time to pick up speed.

We have our man. It's Stafford. It's Suh. It's Calvin. It's Delmas. What we need is Man Number Two to stand up.

by halfbackattack33 on Jan 7, 2012 11:26 PM EST reply actions  

I want the Niners to light Brees' ass up next week

In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.

by Boeschlander on Jan 7, 2012 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

I dont think San Fran stands a chance against the Saints in all honesty

all they are is a run D and run O. Hell David Akers is their MVP this year

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by MuleRules on Jan 7, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

NO is a different team on the road

and on grass specifically.

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by Wiedmann on Jan 8, 2012 3:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Great season, I'm excited for the future.

Hope Justin Smith breaks Brees’s leg in half.

You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 7, 2012 11:29 PM EST reply actions  

After watching them air it out with a three possession lead

Made me lose a lot of respect for him

In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.

by Boeschlander on Jan 7, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i totally disagree................

Maybe its just my age and being a little old school but if we don’t like the points they are putting up then we need to stop them, quit whining about the points and do something about it. Now as for all the holds and that fumble recovery we should have had 7 off of bitch, whine and complain away————————I am.

by chainsaw on Jan 8, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

totally agree

Why would any team just keep hammering on the points with pass plays when they are up so much with so little time left? I’m taking the Pats all the way this year since my disgust for the Packers extends the Saints, even after this game.

by taydor b on Jan 7, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

The Patriots are the team that runs up the score as much as possible.

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by Wiedmann on Jan 8, 2012 3:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I wonder what Schwartz would do in the same boat, during a playoff game?

I could see him wanting to build up a comfortable enough lead against a quality opponent. And I did appreciate they took a knee at the end of the game, or the score could have been worse

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by AlaskaLion on Jan 8, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I really wanted to stay objective and just enjoy a playoff game

and then I watched as my team got called for 7 drive crippling and drive sustaining penalties and the other team got called for 3 meaningless penalties.

I am not pleased right now and need time to adsorb all of this.

I stopped watching the NBA because of the obvious favorism in it’s officiating. Is the only sport I have left going to go down that same road again?

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by joshsun on Jan 7, 2012 11:29 PM EST reply actions  

I'd say the no calls are more the story.

That game goes differently if we are allowed to get pressure on Brees. At least give us a shot NFL.

by Eddie Apoc on Jan 7, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

I said in the thread that bias usually comes through more in non calls

by nuftjedi on Jan 7, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll be back for the draft

but I’m not sure I’ll be as invested next year as I was this year.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 7, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

please don't go that way

although I do expect Stafford and Calvin to get those calls next year
especially if we can keep the team from doing anything over the top dirty

by BillySimsMadeMeDo on Jan 8, 2012 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I meant NFL please don't go NBA refs style

but our stars came out this year, and I think they’ll get the beneift calls

by BillySimsMadeMeDo on Jan 8, 2012 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I do not want star calls

I want fair games. Nothing more nothing less. Just fair. Two week in a row my team got the shaft and it was not because of their own stupidity. They got the shaft because of who the other team is.

I call BS.

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by joshsun on Jan 8, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

We will be back

A good season, every way besides a win is a cruddy way to end the season. Secondary had lapses but HAD three picks. So frustrating.

But hats off guys, we are here to stay. No longer looking at .500 as a good season.

Lions 2011 "Luke 18:27"

by The.Lions on Jan 7, 2012 11:30 PM EST reply actions  

To me, respect is great in itself

If you think about it, Detroit has had to earn that respect for a lot of their teams. Not everyone’s teams are born with greatness

In a Tiger fan's world, the Tigers go 162-0 and the White Sox go 0-162.

by Boeschlander on Jan 7, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

please fans dont blow this on the REFs

this game was lost by it inability to execute … obvious questions about this team leading into the off season.

I hope the Saints win the SB …two reasons being from the South originally and of course its easier to say u got beat by the eventual champs ..

by JaiGaiaAries on Jan 7, 2012 11:31 PM EST reply actions  

It's impossible to execute if you're being illegally held the entire game.

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-Johnny Cash

by TheLoneDavid on Jan 7, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree ... if our D line wasn't being held so much, less pressure on our shaky secondary

They even commented on the lack of holding calls on the Saints blog. One person attributed it to good "scouting’ of the Refs by their DC, Williams, and knowing that this crew that wasn’t gonna throw many holding flags.

Don’t know if there is any merit to that theory, but at minimum it show the Saints fans were also seeing the blatant holding on our team … enough to comment on it.

Lion fan in the Great Land!

by AlaskaLion on Jan 8, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Niners fan here

Just wanted to say congrats to you guys on a great season. The future is bright for both our franchises and I look forward to fun rivalries moving forward. I was rooting for you guys tonight and I hope you can reciprocate. The Saints are cheating darlings and I can’t wait to knock the tiara’s off their heads. Forget some of the idiots from our blog that come here and talk stupid smack. Like you, we haven’t had success in a long time so we get a lot of bandwagon jumpers with no class (unfortunately that’s the internet).

See you next season!

by Method24 on Jan 7, 2012 11:31 PM EST reply actions  

Tear Brees's shoulder off

they’re like the Colts, a shit team without their QB.

You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 7, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks Method ... have to tell you though .... I wouldn't trade Stafford for Smith!

Of course we could use a running back like Gore (the guy is awesome) and your Defense is very good.

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by AlaskaLion on Jan 7, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe if either of our teams got the kind of calls NE, NO, and GB get.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 7, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

thanx method

thanx dude, ur team is greatly improved also, glad u guys are the 2 seed i believe, its just like the 90s, both of our teams in the playoffs again!

by nick426 on Jan 7, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

who is the refs gonna favor in this game? the cinderella SF 49ers, or the league leader in passing yards?

I think this is a tough call for the NFL, more than likely the Saints, SF has been closer to Lions on win/loses over the last decade so they will treat them like Lions, good luck getting any pressure on Brees…I actually said during the middle of 3rd quarter " the only way Lions win is if Brees gets taken out of game"

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by jalf on Jan 8, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Schwartz its at the stand

Missed opportunities, 3 dropped picks, 3rd down defense

by SouthOf8Mile on Jan 7, 2012 11:32 PM EST reply actions  

Defense the story of the year fellas

It was our offense that got us here. Our defense screwed us almost every step of the way. Too many come from behinds. Replace Levy and our whole secondary as a start. Also replace Raiola. We need guys that can run bloack consistently.

by Usmarine0341 on Jan 7, 2012 11:32 PM EST reply actions  

Please don't hate us for the way the refs screwed up

They really blew chunks in this game, and mostly over the Lions. We got a few bad calls (blatant holding in the end zone on Jimmy Graham, for instance), but nothing to compare with a fumble recovery TD that was stolen.

Still…I think the Saints would have won, anyway. That second half was just too much. Y’all are going to be the team to beat soon, though.

"Sinn Féin, motherf*****s!"

by MtnExile on Jan 7, 2012 11:32 PM EST reply actions  

Your team was up 45-28 with two minutes left and were still throwing the ball

Not really sure I can just look past that.

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by joshsun on Jan 7, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I know man

Just not happy with anything right now.

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by joshsun on Jan 7, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

We tried for the first down to run out the game on a third and long…what are you expecting? Come on man…that was a well fought game…don’t sour it.

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Jan 7, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I never feel like a fight that is 2 against one is fair.

Call me silly like that.

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by joshsun on Jan 7, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Boo hoo.

I’ll never get pissed at that. Our defense is paid lots of fucking money to stop them. Plus they didn’t even score. Not something to get mad about.

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by Bighaircut on Jan 8, 2012 4:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

You guys would have won regardless of the calls. But the, fumble recovery blown dead, the 4th down “forward progress” call, and the fact the clock ran when the Lions got out of bounds during the 7:00-4:00 4th Quarter time period definitely leaves a bitter taste in my mouth about this game. At least give us a f-ing chance.

Is it not too much to ask that the Lions get a fair shake at a game???

by ziggyz on Jan 7, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Roar!

ROOOOAAAR! That’s about how I felt about all the missed interceptions. Oh what could have been…

by Honolulu Blues on Jan 7, 2012 11:33 PM EST reply actions  

From 6-10 last year

to 10 – 6 this year, plus we made the playoffs. I’ll take it

Did you guys see the size of that chicken?

by studmo on Jan 7, 2012 11:33 PM EST reply actions  

Some Musings from Me

-I’ll be rooting for the Niners
-Saints are good, but the officiating controls the ebb and flow of the game
-Need secondary help vitally
-Gunther needs to go I’m afraid, our D is too talented to be as ineffective as they were the last 2 games, albeit GB and N.O.
-Need to tackle and cover better, come on for gods sakes
-Who would get the better officiating between GB and N.O., I laugh at the thought
-I give our boys credit for not committing personal fouls considering the refs hack job
-I would keep Linny and see what he can do when our RB’s stay healthy hopefully

Thank you Lions for a great season and I look forward to more great days ahead, let’s keep this train movin’

by SanDiegoMick on Jan 7, 2012 11:33 PM EST reply actions  

GB vs NO

the only unbiased officiating the NFL sees all year.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 7, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

they're probably tipped to overlook any of their mistakes

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by Boeschlander on Jan 7, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I absolutely hated that call on the drive, before our TD drive...

Where Stafford just threw it up to TDY. I dont know if we were trying to go deep and take it all the way, but I absolutely hated that drive. We had about 9 minutes left, down by about 14 or so.

by mhout005 on Jan 7, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

yep, got an INT on that play and the saints came back and scored

They brought the blitz, Staff couldve checked down. I really don’t know what he was seeing that play or what Linehan called but it made me pretty sick. As did the tackling, and the 3rd and long spot to give the Saints the first down at the start of the 3rd

by mhout005 on Jan 7, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Titus fell down, that didn't help.

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Jan 7, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Disagree

Titus should win those one on one battles. But he has to stay on his feet.

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Jan 7, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

How can you disagree?

by Tim 34 on Jan 8, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Shit happens, guys slip or trip

I am overall VERY happy with season Titus Young had. He’s a “keeper” !!!!

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by AlaskaLion on Jan 8, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Secondary

With all the injuries we were working with some slim pickings. But i will admit the D line slowed wayyy down after the half way mark of the season. another solid CB along side Houston would be real nice.

Lions 2011 "Luke 18:27"

by The.Lions on Jan 7, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I was lost

I was lost and could not find a home, a place to talk a place to share.

The lions were 2-10, and I was nervous, worried and sad that I had no one to share in my sadness, but also my hope.

And then I found you guys, this site, it’s because of Sean, Simscity, BHC, joshsun, CLF, Lionsgal, and everyone in between. You guys made me feel like family, no, we are family, thank you, to everyone for bonding together under the silver and Honolulu blue.

We can rebuild and we will, there is a lot of potential and a lot of hope, united we stand, and we will prevail, I have the faith that we can move forward successfully. Thank you Pride of Detroit, thank you my beloved Detroit Lions, for 15 years I have waited for true success, and I have found it.

Hold your head up high, look forward, we have a product that can be devastating, and it will be. God bless the lions, God bless PoD, we will prevail!

by Usman 'Uzi' Altafullah on Jan 7, 2012 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

We are rebuilt

just a few pieces away

I am with you though, I love this site thank you all

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by The.Lions on Jan 7, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank-you Sean for all your great work ...

We have an elite quarterback in Matthew Stafford, yes on the same level as Brady, Rogers, Brees, toss Stafford in there and you have the 4 best QB’s in the NFL. And Megatron. Lions need to solidify the running game and really need major work on the defensive side of the ball. The offensive line was surprising during the last half of the season but still needs some younger bodies. Stafford and CJ are something special to build around.

by Black & Gld on Jan 7, 2012 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

35-14 in second half ..

Schwartz just admitted Holding wasnt being called and its obvious but it worked both ways

by JaiGaiaAries on Jan 7, 2012 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

im sorry though officiating clearly got in way

as a team you have to make that up and the D just didn’t rise to the occasion

the truth is that the Lions are on track and at same time a year ahead … a few changes and some toughness and this D is ready w/ offense to take on the NFC for years to come

by JaiGaiaAries on Jan 7, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

You can't make up no calls

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Jan 7, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

there is holding and there is HOLDING

inside the framework of the body happens on every play and usually not called, the saints were egregiously Holding on the Outside and up under the shoulder pads and tackling. not acceptable

by patchofblack on Jan 7, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS: SAINTS TO CHANGE COLORS TO BLACK AND WHITE

to match their 12th player THE REFS.

not saying we lost solely from the refs but it def hurt us badly

by patchofblack on Jan 7, 2012 11:36 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks to PoD, and all Lions' fans for a great season!

We all learned something this season, and next year we’ll be closer, OR, who knows… perhaps SuperBowl Champs!

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by Gee Garold Lembach on Jan 7, 2012 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

One and done

is better than none and done. The roar is restored. Can’t wait for next year!

Did you guys see the size of that chicken?

by studmo on Jan 7, 2012 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

Yep.

We wiped a lot of records and losing streaks off the books this year.

by Eddie Apoc on Jan 7, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm excited man.

Except for that one year (95?) we’ve never had a good QB that I can remember. Stafford is everything we thought he’d be and more.

by Eddie Apoc on Jan 7, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I guess it's a good thing

we aren’t going into next year with Scott Mitchell, then.

Did you guys see the size of that chicken?

by studmo on Jan 7, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

You must really be a fun guy to be around

Always happy and carefree.

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by Bighaircut on Jan 8, 2012 4:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Sean, Sim, Latif, and everyone else

Thank you for a great season. Wish I would’ve found this site sooner

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by MuleRules on Jan 7, 2012 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

Thank you to the Lions offense

No thanks for the defense.

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Jan 7, 2012 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

Congratulations on a great season.

Hold your heads high…from 0-16 to the playoffs in 3 years. Simply amazing. There’s a lot of good things in store for your team. I’m not ashamed to say I’ve very much been made a Lions fan over the last few seasons…just not against my Saints.

Best of luck in the future…it’s going to be a bright one.

-Lombardi was wrong...it's the internet, not fatigue that makes cowards of us all. But then again, what do you expect. Not like the guy could see the future.

by jeff.l.b on Jan 7, 2012 11:43 PM EST reply actions  

Not as long as there are officials.

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Jan 7, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, thanks to the excellent writers we have at the POD

and to all of you who make this a fun place to be. We talk NFL draft in a few months here, right?

Did you guys see the size of that chicken?

by studmo on Jan 7, 2012 11:44 PM EST reply actions  

Secondary

Delmas is a keeper,Houston is okay, otherwise start over

The Vikings throw a Christian to the Lions, twice a season!

by randalljwhite on Jan 7, 2012 11:44 PM EST reply actions  

Wright is sometimes great but he's just too inconsistant.

I’m not sure If I want to give up on spivey yet. And I would keep Berry for sure.

by Eddie Apoc on Jan 7, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

your getting it more

Delmas Houston .. i wont post numbers and apparently he was playing hurt … are the keepers, let Berry and Wright or someone battle for 3rd

by JaiGaiaAries on Jan 7, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Take a deep breath...

and stop posting dumb things.

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by Bighaircut on Jan 8, 2012 4:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Good game

Good luck next year your team has greatly improved this year

by mississippisaintsfan on Jan 7, 2012 11:45 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

thanx buddy

well see ya sometime next year :)

by nick426 on Jan 7, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

get a bitch ready to choke then.

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by Bighaircut on Jan 8, 2012 4:58 AM EST up reply actions  

yup

We draft BPA with a heavy bias to flash.

DBs are almost never flashy.

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by joshsun on Jan 8, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Couple of thoughts

-We’re seriously only a few step away…namely secondary (hasn’t it always felt that way?)
-Fumble return stopped early was huge momentum swing (def scheme different if up 21-10)
-Generous spot for NO on 3rd down led to a 9(?) minute drive that lead to a NO TD in 3rd Q.
-Giving up 1100 yards to anyone in two games is awful, even if it was GB and NO (hands down two best passing offenses)
-Looking forward to next year, they’ve got a taste of success now…I expect them to be HUNGRY.

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by gf206 on Jan 7, 2012 11:46 PM EST reply actions  

get good

the damn secondary and refs, we still lost this game but i believe that phons is a better corner then barry by far! but im happy we made the playoffs, like sean posted, thank you lions, next year! p.s. i dont believe the saints are going to make it thru San Fran, the saints did lose to the 2-14 rams

by nick426 on Jan 7, 2012 11:48 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

Phonz is too all or nothing, he either makes the interception or gets toasted, and unfortunately this year it has been more of the latter

by CMUWR12 on Jan 7, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

well yeah but we cant just cut everyone and start brand new

we have building blocks and corners arent just on the market this year, i believe phonz is better then barry, i dont think hes amazing but better then barry, he wasnt a starter last year for the same reason, and i know how were drafting lol

by nick426 on Jan 8, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

It is gonna take me some time to absorb this one

It was a completely different story from one half to the next.

In the meantime, I have to give huge props to Sean, Latif, Simcity and other bloggers here for keeping me entertained and informed all season long. You guys (and Lions fans) are simply the best.

G’night everyone.

by SuhSuhSuhdio on Jan 7, 2012 11:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Great season! Sad to see it end like this

good game till refs took control in 2nd half. Then our guys came unglued due to momentum change. Still a great team to watch and can’t wait to see the changes made for next year. We will definately be in mix next year and hopefully with more respect from media and NFL.

by Honalulublue on Jan 7, 2012 11:50 PM EST reply actions  

Ok just to say this

NEVER let Charles Barkley choose your team for his ‘winners’

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by MuleRules on Jan 7, 2012 11:51 PM EST reply actions  

I'd rather go for Corrente than Barkley.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 7, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

saints

and i do want to thank the NO fans for not being classless like green bay’s were, and i do hope the saints all the best but im just looking at there track record away from home, but thanx mississippisaintsfan, hopefully your team goes far! and i am a drew brees fan :) just sore over a lions loss, like usual

by nick426 on Jan 7, 2012 11:51 PM EST reply actions  

you didnt hear them singing nananana nananana heyheyhey goodbye?

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by MuleRules on Jan 7, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

no im an otr truck drive

and where im at in tupelo, ms they cut straight to the 10 oclock news

by nick426 on Jan 7, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

For the record,

I am now giving credit to JS and the Detroit players for keeping it classy these last 4 games. I’m glad to see they got the pf penalties corrected.

Did you guys see the size of that chicken?

by studmo on Jan 7, 2012 11:53 PM EST reply actions  

the 1 call was total BS though

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by MuleRules on Jan 7, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Missed that one.

Did you guys see the size of that chicken?

by studmo on Jan 7, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Great Season From the Lions

It was good to see Schwartz finally call out the officials in the post game, I am sure he will be fined for that. Because the NFL league office hates the Lions. That being said, just like Schwartzy said, we lost because we did not catch interceptions, get off the field on 3rd and 4th down, nor did we tackle well at all.

I have hope for next year though and I do not feel any drastic personnel changes are necessary. Just continue to draft and add talent and develop the roster. We will be back in the playoffs next year, with a better defense all the way around and a better running game to help support Stafford and Co. as well.

Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!

by Evilsmurf on Jan 7, 2012 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

I don't usually like to hear Coaches bitch about penalties.

But if he doesn’t draw some attention to it it will never stop. So this time I’m on board.

I agree no drastic personal moves are necessary. I think most people on here agree that the problem was more with the scheme.

by Eddie Apoc on Jan 7, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Big THANKS for the LIONS

Tough loss tonight, but an amazing season anyway. Keep the core, keep that rate of improvement, and keep working on that image, to not to have to fight the refs every game.

by dfdpl on Jan 7, 2012 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

Well said Sean. This was a huge year for the Lions.

If some one would have told you at the beginning of this season that we’d make the playoffs and find out Stafford is a 23 year old elite QB who wouldn’t have taken that?

by Stones1981 on Jan 7, 2012 11:55 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

See you around, gents.

Did you guys see the size of that chicken?

by studmo on Jan 7, 2012 11:56 PM EST reply actions  

You know, this game makes Stafford's 5,000 yard season look all that more impressive.

How many more yards could he have put up if his drives had been extended like Brees’s?

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 7, 2012 11:57 PM EST reply actions  

im thinking

6000 yards wouldve been possible

by patchofblack on Jan 8, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe not that many

More than Brees had though.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 8, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Good night all

My GF wants to watch a movie, I’m being summoned, she is a summoner, doh!!!

I’ll be in periodically for sure

by SanDiegoMick on Jan 7, 2012 11:58 PM EST reply actions  

did she summon your 'giant serpent'?

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by MuleRules on Jan 8, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank you Lions for a very entertaining season!

It’s a damn shame that the New Orleans Saints can hold like crazy and never have to worry about getting a flag thrown against them!!! You cannot tell me that the NFL isn’t the most corrupt professional sport in the world. I saw several holds all night long and not one of them were called, just as I have been posting all week long. I am so pissed off right now I cannot see straight and I hope our entire front four and every coach bitches about the officiating in yet one more game. I have had it with the NFL… I will be damned if I watch another game until that cheap SOB Roger Goodell hires professional officials to do these games. I know some of you will think I’m just paranoid, or crying over spilled milk, but I’m not wasting my time on any more NFL games until changes are made, and professional officials are doing these games. I have many much more entertaining things to do with my life than watch a bunch of asshole officials deliberately ignore penalties they should be calling on teams. Congress needs to investigate the NFL for corruption especially since these games are being bet on in Vegas, because the officiating in these games is atrocious!!!

by Jeff Lamphere on Jan 7, 2012 11:59 PM EST reply actions  

I can so tell you the NFL isn't the most corrupt sport

oh wait, NBA isn’t a sport. Nevermind.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 8, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank you to the team!

They gave us a fantastic season, and to go from 0-16 to the playoffs in just 3 years is very promising for the team’s future. With the young core of players they have, a playoff berth is essential to the growth of the team, and is the next step for them to take in order to challenge for the Super Bowl down the road. We have deficiencies to address in the offseason, but I’m confident in the front office that they will make the right decisions, they have yet to give me reason to think otherwise. This season was just the first step in a great new era in Lions’ football, and there is definitely at least one Super Bowl in the (very) near future! GO LIONS!!!!!!!!

by CMUWR12 on Jan 8, 2012 12:02 AM EST reply actions  

Right

Now that that’s over, let’s talk draft. :P

by mcivor on Jan 8, 2012 12:02 AM EST reply actions  

Nah, I need tonight to bitch

we’ll talk draft tomorrow.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 8, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmm, kinda glad I wasn't able to make it to the thread...

Everyone seems kind of bitter right now, I was actually surprisingly pleasant after the Lions lost. Of course I was sad, but I just feel the lions got outplayed, nothing more. Of course there are questionable calls, but I’ve gotten use to it this season.

This is pretty much exactly how I pictured the game going, the lions are about a season or two from truly competing for the SB. If they are one and done in two years, THEN I’ll start bitching. For now, I’m just gonna sit back and marvel on how this team went from 0-16 to playoffs in just a couple years.

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by ZWC11 on Jan 8, 2012 12:07 AM EST reply actions  

Well said

Lion fan in the Great Land!

by AlaskaLion on Jan 8, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Nonsense

We can score on anyone, scoring can win SB’s.

Our defense has been a non-existant force all year long. Upgraded from last year in every area and still played just as badly.

by Incantrix on Jan 8, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Apparently you must be a fair weather fan that just started watching the Lions this season, because I’ve been watching them for about 45 years and I’ve seen lousy officiating affecting the Lions games forever. I feel sorry for the line because they deserve better than a bunch of lousy officials that never call a game the same for them as they do the other team. What makes you think the officials won’t continue to NOT CALL PENALTIES on Lions opponents in a couple of years? The same old BS has been going on almost all my life and to be honest with you I am sick of it!!! The Lions deserve a lot better from the NFL, but Roger Goodell will continue to use our time officials, because he is a cheap asshole.

by Jeff Lamphere on Jan 8, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

If you think our bad o-line didn't hold as well your nuts.

The game was lost by a very bad defensive scheme, not the refs.

We played the exact same scheme last week vs GB and a backup QB who went and set a team record for passing, without a key reciever.

How well then do you think said scheme would work vs the NFL’s passing leader who broke Marino’s record? Worked to about a 626 yrd day for the Saints.

BTW, if you ask ANY lineman in the NFL current or retired they will tell you there is holding on every single play. Put the blame where it should lie.

by Incantrix on Jan 8, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly my point, thank you

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by ZWC11 on Jan 8, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Granted our defense did play like crap, but the non-calls on holding were a big factor that kept our defense on the field much longer than they should have been.

by Jeff Lamphere on Jan 8, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude, listen...

If they would have called 20 holding calls, Brees would have just thrown for another 200 yrds. We let him sit in the pocket (no rush) and throw to open recievers (zone) ALL NIGHT <——- No change -—> Stay the course <—— Go down with the ship -

by Incantrix on Jan 8, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly, the only call I was really kinda mad about was the blown whistle on the fumble, because that would have been a TD..

But that’s not really fair to the refs, it was hard to tell if that was a fumble from the get go.

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by ZWC11 on Jan 8, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I'm a fair weather fan obviously...

This is why I’ve been posting less and less on this site… all the new members that have joined this season are so bitter and so critical.

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by ZWC11 on Jan 8, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Bitter & critical

I think if our entire team would have showed up to play the game and we would have lost by even 10, everyone here would have been fine.

Having a defense, which was all hype and bluster from the media before the season started and 5 games in until they started losing, not even show up to play in two straight games – both important – made this game rediculously hard to take.

by Incantrix on Jan 8, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I meant critical of other members...

There’s no reason for people to attack me because I said something that they may have not liked (not talking about you).

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by ZWC11 on Jan 8, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

And for what it's worth, I agree with you...

I hate the wide 9 system and I think it’s the biggest downfall of the defense. Although unlike you, I still want the Lions to keep Cunningham.

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by ZWC11 on Jan 8, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Because there was no hope of winning.

Now that we’re winning and just need that extra-something to get us forward it becomes an arena for opinion.

And by God my damn opinion is the right one, don’t you even try to tell me differently!

by Incantrix on Jan 8, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Lncantrix that makes sense to me, although I can't comment on past years on this blog

Well … the no hope of winning part … not the part about him always being right. I’ve checked in on the Pistons blog occasionally, and I can see the “gallows humor” in full force.

I am a “new member” this year, not angry or bitter in the least (during my 50+ years, I’ve seen my share of bad Lions teams) and I see the great promise we now have. And since I’m no longer living in the Motown area, this is a great way for me to keep up on team news, and connect with other passionate Lions fans.

During an emotional and frustrating loss, I can see some people lashing out, saying stuff they’d perhaps like to take back later, etc.

Lion fan in the Great Land!

by AlaskaLion on Jan 8, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Great season by the Lions!

It was really more than I could have hoped for and the first time I enjoyed a football season since middle school. I am actually looking forward to next year with hope for the first time in a long time. We need to sign some guys and re-sign a few others but we are close.

We have the best reciever around who played his guts out tonight. Stafford also played very well and he is only going to get better, sure he threw int’s but he had to make things happen.

Other than Delmas and Houston we need a new secondary. Our guys were getting put in headlocks all night trying to rush the passer and the refs gave a few generous spots on 3rd down. We are still young and learning and a year away!

by RedeemedLions on Jan 8, 2012 12:18 AM EST reply actions  

Let's flood social networking sites with the following to pressure the NFL

ROGER GOODELL, HIRE PROFESSIONAL OFFICIALS TO OFFICIATE NFL GAMES YOU CHEAPSKATE!!! WITH ALL THE MONEY THE NFL IS MAKING THE FANS DESERVE TO HAVE PROFESSIONAL OFFICIALS OFFICIATING THE GAMES IN THE NFL!!!!!!

by Jeff Lamphere on Jan 8, 2012 12:21 AM EST reply actions  

Lol

While I agree with you it just makes us look like Crybabies and sore losers.

by Eddie Apoc on Jan 8, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

i agree it does make us look bad, its also the truth

and this is just nitpinking but Drew Brees Kneeled down on 4th and goal with 30 seconds left in the game and the clock kept ticking its a change of possession the clock stops just kinda goes to point out how bad the refs were

by patchofblack on Jan 8, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe, but seriously NFL fans deserve to have professional officials in this day and age. This is the only professional sport in the United States that uses unprofessional officials, and that’s ridiculous.

by Jeff Lamphere on Jan 8, 2012 12:26 AM EST reply actions  

If they don't reign it in fans will jump shit.

The NBA used to be big business but a ton of people quit watching it for the very same reason.

by Eddie Apoc on Jan 8, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

That would require watching the game again though.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 8, 2012 2:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Our Needs

First of all, quit blaming the refs. Yeah, some bad calls, but we flat out got beat by a better team. We need to get better in the secondary and we also need a couple of good running backs. We got far on a great QB and some great receivers. But we need a running game.

Look at the bright side. At least we can delineate our needs. A few years ago, I wouldn’t have known where to start!

Mel

by Melvin B on Jan 8, 2012 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

Well we may as well all kill ourselves then.

Lighten up sunshine. We may draft some Lineman or sign some lineman.

by Eddie Apoc on Jan 8, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

How effective is Stephen Peterman?

Curious LSU fan who has not kept up with him or seen him a lot in the pros; he came out of nowhere when at LSU and could run block really well back then.

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GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Jan 8, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

He was good in past seasons, got hurt last year and was terrible when he played hurt...

Had at least 2 FS’s a game it seemed like. He’s been better this season, but he’s still about an average linemen imo. For some people though, the frustrations he caused last year have lingered over to this season.

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by ZWC11 on Jan 8, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Line needs some help-definitely

Just saying, the RBs currently on the roster are good enough for now.

I put the screw IN THE TUNA!

by Transplanted on Jan 8, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Future is bright Lions' fans

Stafford showed a lot of heart and competitiveness with that drive to make it 38-28 and really all game. Very aggressive and throws the ball really well. Johnson is one of the best if not the best overall receiver. Was a shootout like I thought it would be. Good luck next year!

Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:

"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.

GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!

by mjtig on Jan 8, 2012 12:39 AM EST reply actions  

PURE AND SIMPLE

Thank you Lions. It was a fantastic season. Proud to be a Lions fan. No naysaying. Looking toward the future with great players.

USE THE SCHWARTZ!!!

by Twon82 on Jan 8, 2012 12:40 AM EST reply actions  

Acc. to Tom Leyden

A Lions fans has been attacked by NO fans for wearing a #90 Jersey and is currently in a NO hospital.

by vr67 on Jan 8, 2012 12:46 AM EST reply actions  

it happens pretty much every saints game

you gotta have balls to show your colors in the superdome i hope he’s ok

First time caller longtime listener should be banned from the radio

by Brad Wesley James Hines on Jan 8, 2012 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Surprised this doesn't have more comments.

I used to think Chicago was the worst city in the country, but New Orleans is looking worse and worse.

You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
-Johnny Cash

by TheLoneDavid on Jan 8, 2012 2:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Hope the guy is all right, this guy is sending him positive vibes.

You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
-Johnny Cash

by TheLoneDavid on Jan 8, 2012 2:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Like any city it depends on where you are

There’s some places in New Orleans that are pretty sketch.

13.

Build Lasers And Stuff For More Ownage, Dude!

by Wiedmann on Jan 8, 2012 3:40 AM EST up reply actions  

so who we gonna draft?

First time caller longtime listener should be banned from the radio

by Brad Wesley James Hines on Jan 8, 2012 12:49 AM EST reply actions  

Thank You

Calvin, Mathew, Sean, Schwartz, Meyhew, Pettigrew, Tullock and others it was the most nervous and excited for my Lions i have felt in a long time and thank you all!!!!

by chainsaw on Jan 8, 2012 12:49 AM EST reply actions  

I Am so damn proud of our management, players, coaches, fans, grandfathers, everyone who made this happen and relished in it

even though it was a loss, i am happy to see the Lions in the playoffs for the first time in my adult life

First time caller longtime listener should be banned from the radio

by Brad Wesley James Hines on Jan 8, 2012 12:55 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks!

To everyone in the lions organisation for makin this happen.

by vr67 on Jan 8, 2012 12:56 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks to you all!!!

This was my first season posting on POD…and it was generally a great time!!

GOOO LIONS!!!!

by akadwriter on Jan 8, 2012 1:09 AM EST reply actions  

Everybody is wanting a shutdown corner.

I agree it would be nice to have but the way teams are built now its not about taking away one guy. Look at all the weapons the Saints or the Packers have. You cant beat them by taking away one guy.

I think getting pressure on the QB is a better way to take care of business on pass defense. Its just a shame we haven’t been able to do it much this year.

by Eddie Apoc on Jan 8, 2012 1:09 AM EST reply actions  

we did in spurts

but seemed like there were games with nada

by BillySimsMadeMeDo on Jan 8, 2012 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't want a shutdown corner at all

I just want a big fast physical corner, who plays up in guys faces and will reroute and then flip them hips and run. he don’t have to have the greatest ball skills as long as he can win 50% of the time

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by Evilsmurf on Jan 8, 2012 2:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Well TY offense and fuck off defense

Offense has been stellar all year. Our defense is simply overrated and sucks. It needs major revamping. I loathe our pourous run blocking o-line but the last 2 games vs the Pack and Saints is a major wakeup call for us that we need to hit defense hard this year in the offseason. We cant let every team we face throw all over us or run all over us which is an every game occurance.

I’m thrilled we made it to the playoffs and I figured with a healthy Staff we’d go 10-6 and clinche a wildcard spot. I had no delusions of winning this game but my god I did not expect the saints to make our defense look like a high school teams defense. It was pitiful. I look for great things to come in the future from the offense but defense needs to be rebuilt if we are to truly compete for a championship.

by Usmarine0341 on Jan 8, 2012 1:10 AM EST reply actions  

Just wanted to say

That you guys had a very impressive season. As a 49er fan, I do not like the Lions. But I will say that they played their guts out. The Saints are a very difficult team and at home they are nearly unbeatable and the Lions went out swinging. I do not think the refereeing helped you and I felt the D-line was held too much. Its not a real excuse for the loss, but even I noticed it.
Come back next year with that same fire. A year of maturity and experience will do this team wonders. Good season, this will help you in the end.

by mcwagner on Jan 8, 2012 1:13 AM EST reply actions  

Congrats on a great season guys.

I was really hoping to see you guys again next week, but it looks like we’ll be facing NY/ATL (which I have no problem with).

The Lions have a great thing going, and as long as Mayhew can keep building on what he’s already done (i.e. get a secondary and remind the DL how to play football), you guys are going to be really good really soon. Good luck in the offseason. Perhaps you’ll be in position to take another Nebraska CB we can can debate about over and over again.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

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by Omaha Sun on Jan 8, 2012 1:13 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks

I have a feeling the Lions and the Packers are going to have a nice run at the top of the NFC North for years to come.

by Eddie Apoc on Jan 8, 2012 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Not that we have much competition.

Although with Angelo and Martz gone in Chicago…

Nah, they still have Jay Cutler.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

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by Omaha Sun on Jan 8, 2012 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, they should be rebuilding

although, they might pull a Vikings & think they still have a shot at winning it all & double down, to hilarious results.

13.

Build Lasers And Stuff For More Ownage, Dude!

by Wiedmann on Jan 8, 2012 3:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I would enjoy that.

Although I’m not sure my grandma could take it.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

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by Omaha Sun on Jan 8, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Word is that Bill Polian may go to the Bears

Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!

by Evilsmurf on Jan 8, 2012 2:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Calvin is a beast

just have to say it again and again and again

by BillySimsMadeMeDo on Jan 8, 2012 1:24 AM EST reply actions  

what we need,imo

First we need to get a shut down corner….thru the draft…or thru a trade or fa…. To me our dline needs fairly and suh In at the sametime! Our cb are average at best! Our offense I can live with…. Our defense needs help! Our db’s …ALL OF THEM,need help,how many times is a db the coaches are “high on” gonna not make the play…. I mean just push the guy out of bounds,knock the ball out of the air,I mean the whole scheme that was talked about on this very site was our line would get so much pressure,who needs db’s? Well the answer is the lions need db’s and good ones! If we get just 1 shut down corner we can let all the other guys fight it out for the other starting job,but I’m tired of hearing everyone say “Houston is good” or “wright’s playing hurt” forget all that bs….we need a ballet at cb…. We got one on our dline,we got one at Wr,we got one at qb,we hot one at saftey!

by hostage42 on Jan 8, 2012 1:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Just need a baller at cb….. Ok I’m finished with my venting…. I’m so proud of the lions! Calvin is a freakin beast! The lions are on the home up…. Look out next year NFL…. Megatron is coming (hopefully with a new contract)…

by hostage42 on Jan 8, 2012 1:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

CJ should just play Ironman football next year.

He will finish the season with 100 receptions and 54 interceptions. 34 total touchdowns.

by Eddie Apoc on Jan 8, 2012 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

After calming down I gotta say

Great season by the team. I feel like we’re a young team that’s right on schedule & with more talent(specifically in the secondary) we’ll be ready to make a serious Superbowl run. I’m glad that that goal is no longer some fairytale that isn’t even worth dreaming about. Can’t wait for April & then on to next year. Go Lions!

by fiendishdr.wu on Jan 8, 2012 1:50 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

There were some stunningly horrible calls/non calls against the Lions this year

We’re talking shocking levels of incompetence or downright favoritism. I like Brees, and Korey Hall (simply cause he was a beast at our an alma mater), but I am sick to death of this ‘white knight’ vibe everyone throws at the Saints and the Packers. Having said all that…we STILL went 10-6 and went to the playoffs! That is a big effing deal. Can you imagine some of the ridiculous opportunities Titus and Burleson are gonna have next year after Calvin had 3 200+ yard games in 4 weeks?? Add to that the fact that we basically get a free second round pick in LeShoure coming back to pair with Best and Smith. Credible running game is a go. Get some young O-linemen to groom for the future, another good corner across from a HEALTHY Houston, make Wright the no 3…and (it pains me to say this) have a ‘come to Jesus’ talk with coach Gun or find someone more consistent…do all that, and I say super bowl 2013! Great Season guys. See you in April.

Only Lions Fan in Idaho, signing off ;)

by trigga mike! on Jan 8, 2012 3:00 AM EST reply actions  

Soooooooo

The Bengals lost and have a worse record than us, so we will pick 22 minimum
I am thinking the Broncos also lose and we pick 23 then
If the Falcons lose they will finish ahead of us and pick 24th
If the Giants lose then we will pick 24th… I think… not quite sure… its late…. I need another drink….

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by Evilsmurf on Jan 8, 2012 3:20 AM EST reply actions  

P. S. Anyone that hates (not that I really seen much hate, just saying)

The Lions making it to the playoffs far exceeded most people’s expectations. This team still has a lot of holes and regardless of what is publicly known, had some serious health issues in the secondary. If there is one player I wish we could upgrade, with a top notch rookie or free agent, it would be Alphonso Smith. Anyways back to the sunshine.

12 teams of 32 make the playoffs. Soooooo 3/8 or .375, or you can say the Lions are in the top 37.5% of teams in the NFL. Pretty damn good considering that they were one of the worst teams in NFL history just a short time ago. With a decent off season, more development, another solid draft, upgrades in depth in some places, a starter or two, and this is a 12-4 to a 14-2 team. That is going to seriously challenge for the division next year.

Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!

by Evilsmurf on Jan 8, 2012 3:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

I didn’t even think they were going to make the playoffs this year. The fact that we made it and hung around for three quarters against arguably the best team in the NFL makes me proud. We hung around against unbelievable odds while the Refs were doing everything they could to slow us down/cheat us.

by Eddie Apoc on Jan 8, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure how it works with division winners/wild card

I think it’s strictly based on record, so what you say would be true.

13.

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by Wiedmann on Jan 8, 2012 3:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm proud of the team, mainly the offense this year.

I don’t want to be irrational and say fire Cunningham over one loss, but the last 6 or so games excluding the Charges have been god awful. It’s either the scheme, or the coordinator, but our defensive line is so overrated it isn’t funny. They’re mediocre and are pumped up by the media so other teams think we’re the best still. I’d take the Giant’s D-Line any day. Wide-9 has to go. We obviously need secondary, and a new center. Raiola getting knocked into the backfield on qb sneaks makes me want to throw up. I like the guy on a personal level, but c’mon.

I’m happy what we accomplished this year and I think one more year of better drafting, getting healthy, and free-agent signings. Along with, a better playoff seeding, easier schedule, and we could make a run next year or at least win a playoff game.

by Dtrain81 on Jan 8, 2012 3:51 AM EST reply actions  

Chargers game was bad too.

One of the worst actually as far as the performance of the DL. We did win, but the pressure on Rivers was nonexistent.

by ziggyz on Jan 8, 2012 5:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh I know

I meant that the defense did well in the Chargers game as a whole. Only 10 pts allowed. The D-Line baffles me, all that talent and no results… it was so much better last year. What happened?

by Dtrain81 on Jan 8, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Great Season

Obviously a disappointing ending but they have improved every year and I expect next year to be different. I do not know if the offense can follow up this year but our D has some work. I think they will definitely build on this and I am definitely excited about next year. Hopefully the re-sign CJ quick.

by bmehne on Jan 8, 2012 4:19 AM EST reply actions  

Great season!

I’m glad we got the one playoff game for experience. Look out for next year!

by coolbreeze42 on Jan 8, 2012 8:28 AM EST reply actions  

The holding was bad

I was more pissed about a chop block on one of our d-lineman I thought was obvious. I think it was Fairley since it was a big man going head over heels. Doesn’t matter now, the back four guys cannot be the same as they were this year. Is it so hard for us to have a corner that will jam his guy at the line, throwing off the timing of the route?

Fan of the Detroit Tigers, Lions and Red Wings.

by Elfuego51 on Jan 8, 2012 10:01 AM EST reply actions  

Defense

Lets face it folks the defense gives up an average of over 30 points a game. Not going to win against good teams with that. Is it the players or the scheme? I think it is a combination of both. The front 4 were being held yes, but Cunningham couldn’t blitz Bree’s because the line backers and the seconday would have been chewed up more than they were. That being said if someone would have told me the Lions would have been 10-6 and make the playoffs at the start of the season I would have laughed at you. Stafford and Johnson are the real deal and if the Lions can add a decent running game with Best and Lashore next season the offense will not be the problem. Free Agency and being smart in the draft will be the most important items that need to be addressed.
If Cunningham stays with this Wide 9 defensive scheme he has to have speed in the secondary and a big time pass rusher. I would almost rather see him go with a standard 4-3 defense. It was a great season for the Lions fans and POD did an excellent job this year. All of our expectations will be higher next season ( we have been saying that for years but this is the first time we can actually mean it ) So fellow Lions Fans stay on the ship and don’t abandon ship.

by LarryLive on Jan 8, 2012 10:46 AM EST reply actions  

What bothered me about the defense in this game.

Was that It wasn’t working well. We were rushing 4 and playing back end zones. Bree’s was chewing us up and WE NEVER CHANGED IT. we played that same damn way the whole game.

by Eddie Apoc on Jan 8, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

That is a good observation Eddie ...

While I’m just a fan, and not a coach, it makes sense to me to mix it up more, so the opposing team doesn’t know what to predict.

On the other side of the ball, while I as pretty critical of him earlier in the season when I was frustrated with the play calling, II thought Linehan came in with a pretty good game plan for the Offense, particularly early.

Lion fan in the Great Land!

by AlaskaLion on Jan 8, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

From an observer here

I don’t comment a lot here; come here looking for quality opinions and info, but I will throw a few in here today.

This season went as well as anyone could have reasonably expected. In 3 years the FO has done a magnificent job of getting this team into a position to possibly be a great team soon. Even with some of the disappointments that happened throughout the year, I am very pleased where we stand. I felt we were still a few players away; a stud mlb would help a lot, but it will be fun to watch them add those pieces.

I want to thank the Lion’s organization for giving us a very entertaining season with great hopes for the future. This will be fun to watch going forward.

I also want to thanks Sean for giving us a top-notch place to offer up opinions on all of this. Good stuff my man!

Have a great year everyone!! Cya at draft time….

Tip

I will never pretend to know more than they do; except in Millen's case.

by Tipsterdad on Jan 8, 2012 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

Just a very stupid thought.

I am thinking that we are building for the future. Dont get so upset that we lost to the saints. Just a few years ago the lions didnt win a single game. And so far every year after we have been winning more games than the previous year. I trust Mayhew and Schwartz in building this into a constant competitive team. We will see the lions in and more than likely win the Superbowl.

by notyourdaddyslions on Jan 8, 2012 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks for the great ride this year, and making the effort every game regardless of the outcome

Hey If any of the Lions actually read this blog, thank you very much for putting a smile on my face most mondays after a game, and unlike some previous seasons, even when you lost he effort and passion was still very evident, and even the games you lost, the ability to not give up and pull out some miracle come backs.

The Saints played a hell of a game in the second half, and we did have the opportunity to match them score for score, their strategy of going for it on multiple 4th and short situations was frustrating but smart.

looking forward to the off season and next season. Thank you to every player and coach that made this season so much fun to watch!!

by glennbkr1 on Jan 8, 2012 6:31 PM EST reply actions  

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