Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Indy 500: 'Greatest Spectacle In Racing' Set For Sunday

Lions' Season Comes To Close With 45-28 Loss To Saints In Playoffs

Much like last week's loss to the Green Bay Packers, penalties were not the story of the game against the New Orleans Saints on Saturday. That was the case many times earlier in the season when the Lions lost games, but the bigger issues on Saturday were bad defense and some questionable calls by the referees not involving flags on the Lions.

Similar to the Packers game at Lambeau Field, the Lions were unable to overcome the combination of things working against them. Had a couple of bad calls gone in their favor, the complexion of Saturday's game may have been much different. Then again, considering how poorly their defense played, it might have been a moot point anyway. The Lions were unable to stop Drew Brees when it mattered most, and in the end that is the main reason why they lost 45-28 and saw their season come to a close on Saturday night at the Superdome.

Star-divide

If you went off of only the first two drives of the game, you would have thought it was a blowout in favor of the Lions. Detroit came out and went right down the field on offense and scored on a 10-yard pass from Matthew Stafford to Will Heller. It was Stafford's fourth pass of 10 or more yards on the first drive alone, and the Lions quickly took a 7-0 lead with the score.

The Lions looked to build their lead by making a big play defensively. After Brees had little trouble moving the Saints down the field and into Lions territory, the defense needed a turnover to keep New Orleans off the scoreboard. When Marques Colston fumbled the ball after catching a pass, the Lions got that turnover with Justin Durant falling on the ball.

Unfortunately, the Lions failed to capitalize on the fumble recovery and had to punt after getting to midfield. The missed chance to go up by two scores would come back to bite them, as New Orleans responded by going 89 yards in 11 plays and scoring on a two-yard run by Darren Sproles.

Although the touchdown tied things up, the Lions quickly changed that with another stellar drive of their own. Stafford continued playing at a very high level, and he moved the Lions 87 yards in only nine plays and capped off the drive with a 13-yard touchdown pass to Calvin Johnson in the back of the end zone, putting Detroit back on top by seven points.

One of the biggest moments in the game happened on the next Saints drive. After once again letting the Saints easily move down the field, the Lions defense came up with another very timely turnover. Willie Young sacked Brees, who couldn't maintain control of the ball. It was recovered by Durant, who would have been gone for a touchdown had a whistle not been blown. Because one referee apparently thought Brees' arm was moving forward, there was a whistle, stopping the return before it even got started. Instead of having a two-score lead, the Lions merely took over at their own 38-yard line, and the offense, naturally, went three-and-out.

The Saints closed out the first half with a 14-play, 85-yard drive that ended in only a field goal. A bad call in the end zone that gave the Saints a touchdown was reversed, and the Lions managed to keep New Orleans from tying things up by making stops on first-and-goal and second-and-goal from the six-yard line. (The Saints moved to the six after a very questionable contact to the head penalty that was called because Amari Spievey's hand touched the receiver's helmet.) The Saints didn't have enough time for another shot at the end zone, so they settled for a field goal and went into halftime down 14-10.

The second half of the game got off to as bad of a start as possible for the Lions. New Orleans scored on the fourth play of the opening drive of the third quarter on a 41-yard pass from Brees to Devery Henderson. Then, after the Lions had their drive killed by a holding penalty (by the way, Nate Burleson was hit in the head on the same play and there was no flag thrown), the Saints took over and added another touchdown. This time Brees found Jimmy Graham, who had nobody on him because of a mix-up in coverage, from three yards out. The touchdown came after New Orleans got a very generous spot on the third play of the drive to move the chains and then later went for it on fourth-and-one from their own 38. Jim Schwartz should have challenged the first questionable spot, but based on how incompetent the officials were, who knows if it would have actually changed anything.

Now trailing 24-14, the Lions responded with a big touchdown of their own to make sure this didn't get out of hand just yet. Stafford found Johnson for 15, 21 and 42 yards, and later in the drive on third-and-goal from the one, Stafford scrambled to the right pylon and dove for the touchdown to make this a three-point game.

This was as close as the Lions would get, because the defense just wasn't able to make a stop. Unlike the first half, when they bailed themselves out with turnovers, the defense just couldn't get off the field. On the next drive, for example, the Lions defense held the Saints to third-and-eight, fourth-and-two and third-and-two. New Orleans converted a first down each time and eventually scored a touchdown on a 17-yard run by Sproles. The Lions' downfall in this game was being unable to make stops on third and fourth down, and this drive was a perfect example of that.

The wheels came off for the Lions when Stafford threw a bomb to Titus Young on the first and only play of the next drive. It was an ill-advised pass, and after Young fell down the Saints made an easy interception. Brees followed the turnover up with a 56-yard touchdown pass to Robert Meachem, making the score 38-21 in the Saints' favor.

The Lions didn't surrender the game by any means, as they responded with a nine-play touchdown drive. Stafford found Johnson for a 12-yard touchdown pass to cut the lead to 10 points. While a comeback seemed unlikely, the Lions at least had a chance to make things interesting. That chance ended after Jason Hanson's onside kick went right to a Saints player, though.

The Saints only needed four plays to score since Brees found Meachem for 41 yards on the second play of the drive. Pierre Thomas punched the ball in from a yard out a couple plays later, making it 45-28. The Lions' last hopes for a miracle comeback disappeared after Stafford was picked off again on the next drive, and the Saints were able to take a knee and run out the clock after nearly scoring again.

The story of the Lions' 2011 season will be missed opportunities. That was especially the case on Saturday night in New Orleans. The Lions had numerous chances to either extend their lead or get back in the game, but they were unable to do so. Sometimes bad calls were the culprit, and that fumble return for a touchdown could have changed everything had it been allowed. At the end of the day, though, it's tough to put the blame on the referees when the Lions gave up an NFL record 626 total yards. Brees threw for 466 yards and three touchdowns, and Thomas, Sproles and Chris Ivory combined for 164 yards on the ground. It was just a bad effort defensively, and unfortunately that has been far too common as of late.

The biggest positive that came out of this game was that it gave the Lions playoff experience. Guys like Stafford and Johnson, who had 12 catches for 211 yards and two touchdowns, certainly didn't play like they had never been in the playoffs before, but the experience will be a good thing going forward for them and the entire team. The Lions have the look of a team that can become serious contenders with another strong offseason, and ending the season with a playoff loss is much better than not being in the playoffs at all. It does sting to think about what could have been, but I'd rather the Lions bow out of the playoffs than be one of the 20 teams that didn't even make it this far.

Next season, the expectations will change and simply making the playoffs won't be good enough. Considering what it took to even make it to this point, though, the Lions as a franchise took a big step in the right direction with all they did this season.

For more from Pride of Detroit, make sure to follow us on Twitter and like us on Facebook.

Comment 100 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

pleased overall

with the Lions performance this season. Secondary needs overhaul as well as run defense. O-line much improved, Staff, CJ incredible, Young pretty good for rook. Hope Best and Leshoure (keep Smith as well) will be healthy next season. Lots to look forward to. Thanks to the entire Lions organization for a great season.

"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five." ~Groucho Marx

by Jettero2112 on Jan 8, 2012 11:33 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

i would have liked to have seen at least one holding penalty against saints.there were a ton of plays where they held,none were called.been obvious refs have been after detroit since turkey day.most people have no idea what stuff like that does to the outcome of games.sometimes what looks like bad defense is players in position to make plays but cant because they are held.although, not tackling would not be affected by that.just sayin that the officiating directly changed that game in favor of saints.unreal.i would send tape of game to league if i were lions. it was very one sided.horrible.

by California Dillon's on Jan 8, 2012 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

First Vikings game...

I thought the officials had been paying closer attention to the Lions ever since that Vikings game when Schwartz yelled “Learn the F’ing rules” after the overtime FG to win the game. NFL officials are a close knit group and I am guessing they didn’t take kindly to be called out like that on an open microphone. It seemed like an overwhelming number of calls went against us after that.

Hopefully the respect that the Packers, Patriots, Saints etc get from the officials will go the Lions way next year after making the playoffs this year. That is earned from playing smart and hard over a long period of time, which I think they started to do over the last few games of the season.

by gotothejoe on Jan 8, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

A Ton?

Like every down almost.

This is DBB, and this is what we do.

by V. on Jan 8, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely want to see lots of free agent signings in the secondary and oline.

That was the poorest tackling all year. We need to sign cliff Avril, drop Aaron berry and Alphonso smith. Possibly spivey too. Interested to see how this offseason shakes out

Matt millen:He puts the oron in moron and the upid in dumb.

by awayfromthepride on Jan 8, 2012 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

don't expect too much

they have said numerous times that they will build through the draft and not pay high dollar FA’s

"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."

by detroit_fan on Jan 8, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Not pay high dollar FA's

You mean, not pay to bring in new blood, right? As in, they will still likely pay our own FA’s like Avril? Just trying to clarify.

by MSUDersh on Jan 8, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

yes i meant high dollar FA's

like an asomugha. i think they will take care of our current guys, the ones they want back anyways.

"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."

by detroit_fan on Jan 8, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I Trust Martin Mayhew

This is DBB, and this is what we do.

by V. on Jan 8, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think that was a good idea when we were far away

Now we are a few offensive lineman, healthy running backs, and few defensive guys away from being one of the best teams in the league.

It is time to sign that big peice to take the next step. The contracts in the draft aren’t as bad anymore so that leaves more money to devote to FA’s.

by RedeemedLions on Jan 8, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

I just don’t know if our front office does.

"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."

by detroit_fan on Jan 8, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Good idea

Let’s drop our young improving talent. That’s a way to win football games.

President of the Eric Wright fan club, but I love me some Aaron Berry.

Obligatory statement about being a huge Lions fan.

I have a twitter: Follow Me

by Bighaircut on Jan 8, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

sarcasm....another fine offering from Mr. Bighaircut..applause! applause!

The first part of Twitter is twitt...don't be a twitt and tweet!

by jalf on Jan 8, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I pretty much agree with Mr Haircut.

I wouldn’t cut Berry, but I would take a long, hard look at Alphonso Smith and Spievey. Smith got burned again when he let a receiver get behind him. Spievey has done OK against the run but he’s left corners hanging out to dry too many times.

The other guys I’d think about too are KVB and Levy. They have been abysmal against the run this year. Or if nothing else, at least don’t play them both on the same side.

Tulloch has been Pro Bowl quality this year and should be re-signed.

The O-line has been erratic at times but played well against the Saints and Packers.

The RB spot ended up a mess again. I have no solution for that except to look at everyone on the roster next summer and see what shakes out.

No slogans. Just win!!!

by drgarnett on Jan 8, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta re-sign Tully.

We don’t know what we have in RB, due to LeShoure. Smith looked awesome at times, so maybe training/competing against some of the guys we got with a little confidence from those solid games he had will bolster what he offers coming into next season… best believe the F.O. will be looking at new guys for the run game one way or another. Best might need replacing too.

Holy shit do we need an influx of talent in the secondary and some answers about the hell happened the last two games of the season on the D-Line.

That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice

by Skylar on Jan 9, 2012 3:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Lions playoff game recap.

Reasons we lost last night in order
1. Poor officiating. After rewatching
The game this morning I still feel this game was taken away from is by the zebras. Examples

Sporles first rushing TD the hole he went through was opened by a hole created from the LT holding and tackling L.jackson

The fumble with the inadvertent whistle which we would’ve atleast got into FG range if not a TD. But we ended up with no points and punting saints get 3 on the following drive. Thats a 6-10 point swing against us.

The 3rd quarter TD pass to Henderson that Brees had all day to throw is directly related to to Fairley being not only double teamed but double held by The C and RG.

The Long pass to colston that set up the easy Graham TD again Brees has all day thanks to a blatant hold against S.hill and Avril being pushed to the ground both within inches of making a play on Brees

The massive hold that collinsworth even mentioned during the game on Williams that busted open the hold for sporles 2nd TD

The obvious Hold on Suh on the wide open TD to Meachem. Among many others

2. Our defense had little pressure on QB (see reason number 1 for why) causing our already suspect secondary to have to play even better(which didnt happen). Our secondary dropped three ints which resulted in 17 PTs for the saints

3. Drew Brees and the saints are a great team and hard to beat on a level playing field. Now add on extra time to find receivers and bigger holes to run through(thanks to the refs) against a team with a bad secondary( plus no help from pass rush thanks to constant no calls for holding, again thanks ref) and the saints go from hard to beat to impossible to beat.

I’m not saying we lost solely because of the refs but they def helped the Saints in a massive way.

by patchofblack on Jan 8, 2012 12:20 PM EST reply actions  

the zebra's had nothing to do with the piss poor tackling

or the missing easy interceptions. people trying to blame the refs need to realize if our guys on D just did their job yesterday we would have probably won that game. this is all on the defense, not the refs.

"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."

by detroit_fan on Jan 8, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

the defense could have also got some rest if

they caught those INT’s, made some tackles, and stopped them on ANY of the 3rd or 4th downs.

"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."

by detroit_fan on Jan 8, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i disagree i think it was the number 1 reason

for the mere fact that it setup everything else, no calls on obvious holds = no pressure on an Elite QB = more time for him to find receivers who are open = TD’s = the refs piling on top of our Defense that was avg to start with = Lions loss.

In my post i mention the dropped interceptions and bad defensive play. i t had a lot to do with the loss but the Zebras def had a lot to do with setting back our defense. our strength is our pass rush and when that is taken away because the refs arent throwing flags on obvious holds then the refs put extra pressure on the secondary to cover good recievers even longer

by patchofblack on Jan 8, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

you gotta make em pay when you gotta a play

Those 3rd downs and 4ths plus the missed interceptions and missed tackles. We make those we beat the refs and the aints

by BillySimsMadeMeDo on Jan 8, 2012 3:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

except

when atleast 2 3rds they got extra 2 yards on the spot and that brees extending arms 4th was not a first and then the 4th and 2 there were 3 holds on the sweep not called

by patchofblack on Jan 8, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Numerous non-holding calls

I was paying attention all night..officiating in that regard was particularly heinous.

Correct me if I’m wrong but there wasnt one holding penalty on the Saints O-line all night

Go Blue!

Revenue - Expenses = Profit

by dezznutz1001 on Jan 8, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

no holding calls

if correct they only had two penatlies called the offsetting OPI call and the Delay of game.

I dont mind a little holding here and there everyteam does it and if its on the inside of the framework of the body is usually not called but these were obvious holds on everyplay up by the arms under the shoulder pads. holding arms etc. it made a big difference

by patchofblack on Jan 8, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup

I saw tons of that all night. Had me livid.

Jahri Evans led the league in holding calls last year. So I am to believe one year later he will play perfect against one of the NFL top D-Lines? AND against one of the leagues best DT’s? SMH…

Go Blue!

Revenue - Expenses = Profit

by dezznutz1001 on Jan 8, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The Lions have come a long way since 2008

But the secondary still looks the same.

Fan of the Detroit Tigers, Lions and Red Wings.

by Elfuego51 on Jan 8, 2012 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

So does everyone think gunny will be back?

and now that the season is over, what’s everyone’s favorite mock draft sites?

"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."

by detroit_fan on Jan 8, 2012 12:28 PM EST reply actions  

I like Gun,

but I would also kinda like to see what Spags would do with our D.

by Blue50 on Jan 8, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup Sean

the throw to Titus was underthrown if staff didnt have all the pressure in his face he wouldnt have had to put that much air under it. Titus fell trying to adjust to an under thrown ball. But that play changed the momentum big time. All in all it was a great season for our Lions and im very proud of them for making the playoffs. 13 and 3 next season!

by mochaj on Jan 8, 2012 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

Didn't help that the turf monster got TD

He slipped coming out of his break which meant the DB was all alone for an easy pick

LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! GO STEFAN LOGAN!

by BBlades on Jan 8, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I noticed it at the time and screamed myself hoarse yelling at the tv

But until Sony comes up with two way audio on those, I guess the refs won’t be able to hear me.

But seriously, doesn’t that seem like an obvious incorrect ruling?

by MSUDersh on Jan 8, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

me too.

i was f’in flippin about it. The NFL loves the Saints. Fuck that!

by Lionheart Richie B on Jan 8, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Totally blown call

The crew officiating this game seemed lost at times on making key rulings…almost like they didn’t know the rule to apply. Very very poor, and I’m glad you brought it up.

I will never pretend to know more than they do; except in Millen's case.

by Tipsterdad on Jan 8, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Every time there was a conference, my thought process was this.

“Okay, I know it’s an obvious call against the Saints, but did anybody see an offsetting call against the Lions? What, there wasn’t one? Had to be.”

or

“I know the Saints offensive line was holding and you could see jersey’s getting pulled…but that Lion touched a Saint in a way that…while not a penalty…I feel I have to penalize”

LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! GO STEFAN LOGAN!

by BBlades on Jan 8, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I noticed the same thing

He probably kept trying to drive forward after he brought the ball back, eliminating the progress gained when he reached over the line.

Fan of the Detroit Tigers, Lions and Red Wings.

by Elfuego51 on Jan 8, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought the same thing..

but to play devil’s advocate…while he was over the pile he was touched and once he was touched the probably decided that that was where his forward progress was and that anything going back now was not under his own power. I still think it’s BS….he pulled the ball back under his own power while on top of the pile…he was not down my contact and he initiated the backwards movement.

LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! GO STEFAN LOGAN!

by BBlades on Jan 8, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

also hes not down till the whistle and once he pulled it back

I believe Hill stripped the ball out and recovered our Brees did but either way it would be a fumble and the ball placed at spot of recorery which wouldnt have been a first down.

by patchofblack on Jan 8, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Look at the comments here

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/shutdown-corner/officiating-gaffe-hurts-both-lions-saints-nfc-wild-034656388.html

3000 comments, I lost count of how many people thought the officiating was inexcusable. Fans from all teams agreeing. It makes the league look like shit.

by bdean on Jan 8, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

The other threads on SBNation were all saying how the Lions got reamed by that call too.

Of course, no mention at all on Canal Street Chronicles.

No slogans. Just win!!!

by drgarnett on Jan 8, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Good call .... on your part, not the Refs

I remember at the time thinking, how it the world are they gonna spot that?

Lion fan in the Great Land!

by AlaskaLion on Jan 8, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, Schwartz should have challenged that play.

Brees pulled the ball back in. Ball should have gone back to the Lions.

The Saints should be embarrassed for having calls like that in their favor.

No slogans. Just win!!!

by drgarnett on Jan 8, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

He didn't challenge anything all night, I believe

I think he was almost scared to use them, especially on a spot call after getting so forcibly boned last week.

If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.

by Kazoonole on Jan 8, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

he also lost control of the ball when he came down

I guess it depends on whether the play was already whistled dead, but if not, it the fumble recovery was clearly NOT a first down…

The boys are back in town!

by rames on Jan 9, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Was it me...

or were there a lot of Lions players falling down? I don’t know if they didn’t have the right cleats or what…but the turf monster seemed to be biting a lot of players.

LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! GO STEFAN LOGAN!

by BBlades on Jan 8, 2012 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah,

I don’t know what that was about.

by Blue50 on Jan 8, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Officiating

I know that this won’t happen, but the NFL really needs to start taking officiating seriously. The stigma that the media can’t talk about how a team got screwed by refs, how coaches can’t bitch about it without getting fined, etc, needs to go. There have been a few games this year where officials have seriously dictated the outcome of the game, and that should NEVER happen.

I didn’t know until this year that NFL officials were part time. That just blows my fucking mind. How can this even happen? How is it that NCAA football has every play (to my knowledge) reviewed on tape, while the NFL only will review certain ones. If the league knows they screwed up before the game continues to be played, they should fix it. We know it’s a fast paced game and officials are going to miss some calls. But that’s the whole reason there are ten thousand cameras around the field…. it can be reviewed. Obviously you’re not going to review minor plays like false starts, offsides, holding, or whatever, because that would slow the game down way too much. However, the fact that Titus Young’s TD vs GB was unable to be reviewed, or Jordy Nelson’s muffed punt wasn’t able to be reviewed, is beyond me.

I’m not completely blaming our losses on the officiating. My point is that the officials have interjected way too heavily into games as of late. I really feel like something needs to be done about this because there is nothing more frustrating than officials who are out of your control swaying the outcome of the game. It’s even more frustrating than when your team lays an egg and just sucks it up.

I watch the Detroit Lions and I....

by Lions & Panthers Fan on Jan 8, 2012 12:59 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Exactly

both of those scenarios happened last night

Go Blue!

Revenue - Expenses = Profit

by dezznutz1001 on Jan 8, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The worst thing about the officiating

is that a few years ago, the NFL told them if you weren’t sure, to let the play go rather than blow it dead.

Then they limit the # of times a coach can challenge. That’s how you get last week.

If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.

by Kazoonole on Jan 8, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

The Inadvertant Whistle

Not just our game, it happens everywhere.

by Tim 34 on Jan 8, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

i like collingsworth now

I hope he makes a big deal out of his observations so it doesn’t sound like only Lions fans

by BillySimsMadeMeDo on Jan 8, 2012 3:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

A PERFECTLY managed game for the Saints

by the refs. Just perfect. Negate a fumble recovery/touchdown in the first half, never call holding so Brees has all day, don’t want to have him get hit or anything. Simply disgusting.
Hell, just GIVE them an extra yard so they get a first down, its the Saints, they are perfect, they can run 65 plays perfectly with not one call. They are SO amazing.

by bdean on Jan 8, 2012 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

Good Game by the Lions offense

The two picks were made when the game was already over. Im still really pissed over the fumble that coulda been a touchdown. That woulda changed everything.

Datsyukian Deke, Detroit Red Wings Blog

by Detroitnr1 on Jan 8, 2012 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

yea that was bull shit why cant you return a td for a fumble!?!?!!?!?!

by Daniel Simonelli on Jan 8, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I forget what the score was at the time

But im pretty sure had that counted we would have been up by 10 or 14

Datsyukian Deke, Detroit Red Wings Blog

by Detroitnr1 on Jan 8, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

the score was still close than

im not sure what it was i was drinking and teird lol but it was close at the point and we didnt score on that turnover :/

by Daniel Simonelli on Jan 8, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Whatever the score was

Had we scored their it would have changed the flow of the game.

Datsyukian Deke, Detroit Red Wings Blog

by Detroitnr1 on Jan 8, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

yup

i agree , but anyways we still have some problems with our game like run blocking and such that needs to be fixed to really have a chance at a sb young team like this cant be counted out of sb next few years even if we did get up on saints we cant run the clock so it stays a shoot out game and you dont always wanna do that against good teams

by Daniel Simonelli on Jan 8, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah,

it’s too bad.

The refs also muffed a call exactly like it in the Steelers/Tebows game.

by Blue50 on Jan 8, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm happy

can’t expect everything to just happen over night this teams young and i like what i see if they can just add a few more peices they need

by Daniel Simonelli on Jan 8, 2012 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

Indeed

Go Blue!

Revenue - Expenses = Profit

by dezznutz1001 on Jan 8, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

You guy got screwed. Stolen TD is a big deal.

Sick how some reviews had been drooling that it would not have mattered, Of course it would.

Hope we deal with them at the stick.

by Mindless on Jan 8, 2012 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

Everyone is bitching about it

Just go look at comments anywhere on NFL boards, everyone is talking about this game and the hard to believe calls. Hell, a message board I post on had a couple hundred different people talking about it since the game, didn’t matter what team they rooted for, these calls hurt the game. It should bother you. I would be talking about it if it happened to say the Packers next week. They gave them 2 first downs and took away a sure touchdown in this game alone, and there were other questionable calls. If the Packers, or any team, lose under similar circumstances it should be discussed as well. These refs should lose their jobs.

by bdean on Jan 8, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Nothing.

But I just stopped by to mention that we would like a different crew.

by Mindless on Jan 8, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Last complaint about the officiating

I still can’t believe that one official blew the whistle on the fumble. One of the other officials who was closest to where the fumble occurred threw down a bean bag when the play happened. This signifies that it’s a fumble and NOT an incomplete pass. The other officials are supposed to look for this bean bag and err on the side of it being a fumble so that situations like last night don’t happen. That’s why the officials gave GB the benefit on the doubt twice last week even though the Lions players clearly appeared down before the ball became lose.

Whatever official blew his whistle really f*cked up. But that doesn’t excuse our lack of pass rush overall, terrible tackling or inability to get off the field on 3rd and 4th down.

by Stones1981 on Jan 8, 2012 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

We need to send a "fix idea" to the league

Those bean bags need electronic devices in them so that when it hits thrown and it hits the ground it sends out a signal to the other refs via a buzz or a vibration or something, so they know to swallow the whistle.

OR

They could pay the fuck attention to what the ref behind the play does

Go Blue!

Revenue - Expenses = Profit

by dezznutz1001 on Jan 8, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, we're a bunch of whiny bitches today

I didn’t see that many penalties being called on the Lions either, and I know Raiola and Backus didn’t get through an entire game without committing a holding penalty.

The Stafford rushing TD? That wasn’t a TD, his knee was down before the pylon moved.

Could probably cite a couple more, BOTH WAYS. The fumble/inadvertent whistle was huge, but other than that, it was a wash.

The reason the Lions lose was because the Saints NEVER punted. The reason the Lions lost was because Drew Brees threw three picks, and the Lions failed to simply catch any of them. The reason the Lions lost was because they couldn’t tackle worth a damn. The first Saints TD drive? Should have been a three and out at the Saints’ 15yard line. But Tully (I think) got juked out of his jock strap, and someone else failed to bring the runner down. There was a TD later where a Lions blatantly missed a tackle that would have made it 4th down, and right after the Saints scored, NBC put the camera on the Lions player who fucked up for a second, and it was appropriate, because that TD was all on him.

I don’t know how broken tackle stats are calculated, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Saints had 25+ broken tackles last night, where a Lion had a chance to plant one of them, and instead, they gained 3+ yards beyond first contact.

The Lions did not deserve to win the game. Sean Peyton came out and made adjustment in the second half, and Schwarz and Gun didn’t have an answer. New Orleans scored at will in the second half. Yeah, absolutely, the refs didn’t help, but The refs certainly didn’t help, but simply put, the Lions did not deserve to win the game.

Eat 'em up, Tigers!

by ahtrap on Jan 8, 2012 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

No one would disagree with you

Our Defense was terrible all night. Tackling was poor. We couldnt get off the field on 3rd down OR 4th.

But the reffing was poor all night as well. I saw countless holds against our D-line and NOT ONE was ever called

Go Blue!

Revenue - Expenses = Profit

by dezznutz1001 on Jan 8, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd

it was damn near simultaneous, but the ball was touching teh pylon at the moment his knee touched the ground. Call Stands

Go Blue!

Revenue - Expenses = Profit

by dezznutz1001 on Jan 8, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

they probably would have still lost

But the point is, these calls affected the outcome of this game. These games need to be officiated better than this. If it happens next week it needs to be addressed. It’s been like this all season. Saints fans, if the Packers get 2 free first down calls and horrible rulings on sure touchdowns off fumbles, or the reverse against the Packers, would you be mentioning it? It’s bush league officiating and it’s embarrassing to watch. Fair is fair.

by bdean on Jan 8, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Have to agree [partly] with ahtrap.

If you don’t make the other team punt at least once in the game, I don’t think you should expect to win.

I was worried after the first half realizing that the Lions had not forced a punt. While the offence looked good, they had to play great to win this game.

"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!

by NorthLeft12 on Jan 8, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

That is a very telling look on Stafford's face

That is the look of a man that wishes he could have done more, not just the guy he is hugging but all his vet players.

Remember how this feels Stafford. It will fuel your desire to get better.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"You can get a win with undisciplined jack asses, you create a winning team with discipline and poise." by Leonuro
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
GROW THE F UP
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Some people mistake the way I talk for the way I am thinking."
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

by joshsun on Jan 8, 2012 2:42 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Not sure he can play much better

than he did in the last five games or so. He was unreal to close out the season and very good in this game. The INT going to Titus wasn’t a bad decision IMO (Titus needs to win with one-on-one coverage, but he tripped).

I believe the team around him needs to get better and take more ques from him. He’s a good leader, I think he’s going to be a great one…

The boys are back in town!

by rames on Jan 9, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

A player can always get better

The moment you think you can’t get better, you start getting worse.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"You can get a win with undisciplined jack asses, you create a winning team with discipline and poise." by Leonuro
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
GROW THE F UP
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Some people mistake the way I talk for the way I am thinking."
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

by joshsun on Jan 9, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

The main reasons we lossed

1) Bad tackling

2) Bad defensive execution

3) Bad calls or non-calls by the refs

4) Missed opportunites

5) We are still trying to build the roster, its not there yet defensively

From 0-16 to a playoff berth and a record setting offense with a franchise quarterback in just a few years, the Lions can finally say they replaced Bobby Layne. Calvin is the best receiver we ever had, and we are a few pieces short of a superbowl contender, instead of an entire team short of a contender like in 2009 when Schwartz first got here. We have a lot to be proud of and I’m looking forward to the next draft/offseason to see just how much better we are going to be for 2012.

From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!

by DLions4Eva on Jan 8, 2012 2:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

LOST

Go Blue!

Revenue - Expenses = Profit

by dezznutz1001 on Jan 8, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

We arent "elite" just yet

Add a Couple more pieces and some more experience for our young guys and its on

Go Blue!

Revenue - Expenses = Profit

by dezznutz1001 on Jan 8, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

it add that NO went out and won the game

DET made several 3rd down stops. NO went for it on 4th and made it 3 times leading to 17 points.

by storm135 on Jan 9, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Scwartz says to ref after two Lion players were blatantly held on a Saints TD

Are you guys ever gonna call offensive holding?

Lions first play pass to Nate. Holding #76

Ref to Schwartz : Are you happy now coach?

Tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1999
(artist formerly known as prince)

by Wayne Fontes on Jan 8, 2012 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

Yes the offciating was bad

However, the most heinous thing of the entire night, was the Lions tackling. That was the worst display of tackling technique ive seen in quite some time out of our boys in Honolulu blue and silver. Absolutely terrible tackling. Half their run yards and YAC wouldve been prevented by simply tackling better. Sorry but that played more of role in getting blown out than the refs calls. Proud of what theyve done since ’08. They are a young team, need to learn discipline. And they will.

by TomRem on Jan 8, 2012 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

Now you know if our players wrapped up on the tackles we'd hear

Defensive Holding Lions

Tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1999
(artist formerly known as prince)

by Wayne Fontes on Jan 8, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

So much complaining

Yeah, the refs blew that fumble call- but we still had the ball and went 3 and out- we had the ball against a weak defense, with the refs calling no holdings on any passing plays on either team (thus almost no pressure on Stafford all game), and we SHOULD have capitalized there (just like after the first fumble).

You know who did capitalize? Drew Brees. The Saints scored a TD on literally every single possession of the second half. Lets be honest with ourselves- the Saints were the better team out there today (and, likely any day if they get to play at home). We only forced one stop all day- the strip sack fumble. The first fumble was a total fluke and the time ran out in the first half forcing a field goal.

So does this mean that we should make huge changes? I think not. We have a good enough offense as-is to win a superbowl right now, We have a top 5 QB (only likely to improve given his age), the best skill position player in the NFL, some decent depth coming back at RB (certainly good enough for a pass-first offense, which we will be for the next 15 years or however long Stafford is awesome), an emerging #2 WR, the third best young TE in the NFL etc. That’s a championship core.

In terms of our defense, I think we have enough talent to be a good one- with the addition of some secondary guys and the maturation of Suh/Fairley etc. Keep in mind that the Saints dominated EVERYONE at home this season- I don’t think there is a defense in the NFL that can hold them down on their turf right now- heck, they barely scored over their home season average on us in this game (!).

This is the most promise of any Lions team that any of us have seen. We need to make some cosmetic changes- I’d let KVB go, as well as some secondary guys, but the core in terms of the personnel and coaching is going to get us there. So lets stop the complaining and be happy with what we’ve got.

by Misha Tseytlin on Jan 8, 2012 3:24 PM EST reply actions  

yeah bad calls, and "what-if" scenarios

BUT back up to Week 17 — if our defense would have showed up, we could have beaten the Packers and SHOULD have been playing and beating the NY Giants today.

I do agree we got screwed by the refs in New O., but can any of us not be disappointed at our defense the last two games? So how do we improve? Rhetorical question – who runs the defense? Make some damn changes.

And, 32 yards rushing ?? cmon man

by wowjimi on Jan 8, 2012 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

Regardless of why we lost, it’s a shame that these officials are the best of them.

by Tim 34 on Jan 8, 2012 7:44 PM EST reply actions  

The night was pretty much summed up when...

… Raiola got bowled over by Rogers. Just flat out over matched when it came to crunch time. The point of attack needs upgrading. The D-backs need to learn from Megatron on how to catch a ball. A running game would be nice. O & D co-ordinators need to get more imaginative. Overall, a B + year. To the entire organization, Thank-you !

" I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this. " " What are you doin' here? You oughta be out in a convertible bird-doggin' chicks and bangin' beaver. " " Medication time. Medication time. " ( One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - 1975 )

by Keevatron on Jan 8, 2012 7:52 PM EST reply actions  

IMO

i think its our defensive scheme as it pertains to the D-line that needs work, we can’t expect to just bulldoze over the oppositions O-line. It seems all we do is have them go and try to overpower O-lines. This “strategy” is college level. If we could get pressure up the middle or off the corners then our D-backs wouldn’t be expected to cover receivers for extended periods of time. The problem isn’t the D-backs Dion Sanders couldn’t stay on a receiver for 10 seconds, why would would expect our D-backs to?
Adjust the D-line schemes,

by chainsaw on Jan 8, 2012 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

It was clear how inferior of a team we are

That’s the most disappointing thing IMO. For most of the season, I didn’t see us as inferior to any of our competitors, just young and immature. I think it’s clear our defense needs some major upgrades in personnel and IMO tweaks to the scheme.

I’m very happy we have such a great offense and have some pieces in place for a good defense in the future. Happy we made the playoffs and improved by 4 games from last year. There’s a lot to be excited about moving foward, but right now, it’s hard to dismiss how disappointing our defense has been in the second half of the season and in that playoff game (when it really mattered). Our Dline was supposed to be one of the best, if not the best in the game. It was supposed to dominate. It rarely dominated and took over games. I’m disappointed in them, just based on the expectations. That said, hopefully Suh will have more of a consistent impact next year and Fairley will develop into the player we’ve seen flashes of. Getting some better players on the back end will hopefully produce more coverage sacks and thus we should be the kind of defense we thought we could be this year.

Here’s to a good off-season and a bright future!

The boys are back in town!

by rames on Jan 9, 2012 11:09 AM EST reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to Pride of Detroit, SB Nation's blog that is your source for everything Detroit Lions.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Small
Matthew Stafford & Will
Dylan_small
POD's Offseason Open Thread
Mikel-leshoure2_medium_small
Top 10 Fanpost!

Recent FanPosts

Small
Martin Mayhew - One Question
Small
NEED YOUR HELP!!!!
Small
Poll
Mikel-leshoure2_medium_small
AOL SportingNews' Bad Attempt At Ranking 32 NFL Coaches
Lion_facepalm_small
Last Rookie Contract numbers
Small
Bold predictions (offense)
Small
Broyles - Value AND Reach?
Small
All other fans hate and disrespect the Lions and their faithful fans (us)
Calvin_dallas_small
Stafford Stats Stand Strong
Desolationrowlarge_small
The 3-4 Look

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Managing Editor

Pod_small Sean Yuille

Writers

Detroit-lions_small simscity

Untitled-2_small Latif Masud

41li1jpy5il Mavyrk