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10 Potential Off-season targets




Hey the season is over. Wow that was fun while it lasted. Never seen my Lions as a playoff contender. I am so pleased with how this season ended I can't even describe how proud I am of these men. So here is a list of a few targets I think you could see the Lions go after in this off-season. I don't project any of them as a lock but a possibillity for sure.

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1 . Asante Samuel - I called it this year and I'll be damned if it didn't almost happen. Eagles will owe him some serious cash this year. It is really feasible to keep him and he may not even want to stay. The Lions are still desperate for that number 1 corner and for a fair price Asante gives them that guy for now. It dosen't end hear, The secondary will be shuffled around for 2012. I am not sold on the return of Eric Wright, Houston I see returning as the #2. With Alphonso Smith and Berry both returning. There will be 2 new corners in the secondary I predict.

2 Peter Konz - Origianlly I had DeCastro as my #1 favorite to pick. Unless the Lions trade up I think Wisconsins 1st rounder center will be sitting there for the pick in the first round. Dom will stay at reduced pay he's a great leader and smart player. Konz has the physical atrributes that Dom just dosen't have. This isn't personal Doms a great player but we need a stronger force. Unless DeCastro becomes an option or a Left Tackle drops I think Konz is the best option in the 1st round. Mayhew must adress the Offensive line this season along with the secondary.

3 Cliff Avril - This is obvious the Lions need Cliff and Cliff needs the Lions stout D line. Lions top priorty will be to get Avril under a 4 or 5 year contract. After the season he had they will be willing to pay Avril. We have to take care of our own first a foremost.

4. Jim Schwartz - Contract Extension were talking 4 or 5 years locked down for the Maywartz empire.

5. Shaun Prater/ Leonard Johnson - 2 corners in this years draft that should be there in the 3rd round at the current early stages in the draft. I expect the Lions will take a rookie corner at some point in the draft. With Houston, Samuel, Phonz and Berry he won't be expected to do to much to early.

6. Jeff Backus - He will be a free agent this year. I expect him to return to the Lions but he isn't a lock to start. The Lions may bring in a young tackle through the draft or free agency. Unless they have decided Fox is ready. Backus will compete for his job. The lack luster performance of the O line as a season cannot go ignored again. Many jobs will be up for grabs.

7. Maurice morris - gone and gone. Mo has a cap number that will not justify his play. Leshour returns and must play. Expect the last 2 spots to be Kevin Smith and Joquie Bell in 2012.

8. Gaurd postion - It's hard to give a name but there will be draft oppertunitys and free agency. This is a spot a trade wouldn't shock me either. I expect the Lions to obtain a new gaurd on the roster. Wether or not he replaces Peterman is hard to guess. The Lions cannot ignore the inconsitency that is Stephen Petermans NFL career,

9 Free agent corners - If the Lions don't get Asante or simply don't get to draft a corner they will sign one. Targets may include Ladarius Webb, Rashean Mathis, Aaron Ross, and sadly Courtland Finegan. I hate Finegan he's dirty and so many other things. He's alost a Schwartz guy so I hope it dosen't happen but I can't rule it out.

10. Defensive Backs Coach - There will be a change on the coaching staff. it won't be a big name but I expect the Lions to be in the market for a new guy to work with the DBs every day.

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Cortland is NOT dirty

Name me one dirty thing that he did. And don’t say the fight with Andre Johnson because he made a concerted effort to not throw a punch so he wouldn’t get ejected from the game and hurt his team by being ejected. His teammates LOVE him for that. On top of that he is a darn good corner.

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Dominating your opposition physically is great and all, but confounding them mentally is sooo much more fun.

2-15-DEN 44(14:36) (Shotgun) K.Moreno up the middle to DEN 47 for 3 yards (N.Suh). FUMBLES (N.Suh), RECOVERED by DET-N.Suh at DEN 47. N.Suh to DEN 47 for no gain (K.Moreno). FUMBLES (K.Moreno), recovered by DET-C.Houston at DEN 47. C.Houston to DEN 47 for no gain (O.Franklin). Denver challenged the fumble ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) K.Moreno up the middle to DEN 49 for 5 yards (S.Tulloch).

by Redwolf333 on Jan 8, 2012 4:25 PM EST reply actions  

Finnegan is about as dirty as Ndamukong Suh

They are similar in their willingness to get into the muck a bit to win. If you are going to understand and excuse Suh, then you have to be the same way for Finnegan.

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by TuffLynx on Jan 8, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Finnegans spunk but not the price tag he'll be demanding

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by Wayne Fontes on Jan 8, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Never said Suh wasn't dirty Nore have I ever excused him from doing so

IMO you cannot put Finnigan whos had a league wide reputation as one of the dirtiest DBs in the history of the game. Along side a young Ndamukong Suh whos temper has gotten the best of him a few times. as I have said Suh is not a dirty player his temper makes him do dirty things. I’ve never made any excuses nore hidden the fact that some of those things he has done ARE in fact Dirty. I have also said that he has to learn self control in order to be a dominant well rounded player. Finnegan has proven he is NOT willing to do so. I seen several things from Suh just last night that makes me think he wants to change his image. Finnigan has been playing like this for years I haven’t heard to many players that have openly respected Courtland…Actually it’s alot of the opposite. But this is my opinion feel about Finnegan how ever you like…I FOR ONE don’t want him on my team. I also don’t think comparing him to Suh is even close to a truth.

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by The Profiler on Jan 8, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Only 1 thing?

How about got one of the nicest guys in the league to physically whoop his ass.

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by Enforcer on Jan 8, 2012 6:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

but according to these guys he made a concerted effort not to punch him back....As if he could have LOL. How would you know that?

He had him on all fours getting his monkey ass beat…THEN proceeded to talk shit as if he won the fight

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by The Profiler on Jan 8, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

How dumb are you?

Who gives a f*ck if he lost the fight? He got one of the best receivers in football kicked out of the game. He was trying to get under his skin and he was successful.

by uofmfan101 on Jan 8, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the personal attack

Stayy classy

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by The Profiler on Jan 8, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

By the way

If you think thats how this game should be played. I’d have to say your the dumb one. Beat the guy on every play. Don’t get him ejected cause he’s better than you.

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by The Profiler on Jan 8, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! GO STEFAN LOGAN!

by BBlades on Jan 9, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Holy hell, whatta motley bunch of losers.

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by Skylar on Jan 9, 2012 3:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I did not need to see that this morning.

I can feel my morning bagel and cream cheese rising up.

On the bright side, look at these three picks as training for the fourth WR; Calvin Johnson.

"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!

by NorthLeft12 on Jan 9, 2012 7:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you a Texans fan?

Players try to get under each other’s skin all the time. Dietrich Smith did it to Suh this year, but he is not considered a villain, (ok, maybe at the POD, to some extent.) Go troll somewhere else.

Did you guys see the size of that chicken?

by studmo on Jan 10, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I could see Backus retiring.

It’s not definite, perhaps not even likely…but with his contract ending and the injury he just sustained, I’m sure he’ll be at least considering it.

by ziggyz on Jan 8, 2012 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

I could see that too

A torn Bicep is gonna be rough for him I think. I could see him walking away entirely but I also think he isn’t going to want to after a playoff berth. Something tells me Jeff Backus wants to be part of that moment when it happes.

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by The Profiler on Jan 8, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking Konz or Janoris Jenkins with the 1st pick leaning towards Konz

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by Wayne Fontes on Jan 8, 2012 4:55 PM EST reply actions  

Jenkins is a solid choice

wouldn’t upset me

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by The Profiler on Jan 8, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Jenkins

But didn’t you just disapprove of getting Finergan because of his possible character concerns?? Janoris is no saint

by JaySoul on Jan 9, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

He does I don't disagree with that at all

I’d rather take that chance on a rookie though. I don’t think Janoris issues are close to that level personally.

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by The Profiler on Jan 9, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

If we’re gonna pick up a “dirty” guy, I would rather it be someone the rest of the team won’t mind smacking around to get him in shape.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 9, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Also I think Avril can go and Young could start in his place

The one guy I want to see as a FA signing would be LaRon Landry or if we cant nab him pick up Griffin from the Titans

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by Wayne Fontes on Jan 8, 2012 5:00 PM EST reply actions  

I don't see anyway Williy takes Cliffs job not just yet

He’s been good but IMO they are almost a team. Young is the perfect relief guy for Avril but Avril is a better all around player IMO. LaRon won’t come cheap I’m not sure they can fit him under the cap when they have 2 safteys they like in Spivey and Delmas.

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by The Profiler on Jan 8, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Willie Young's not ready.

I like the kid but he was made a fool of a couple times last night. He has a ways to go.

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by Skylar on Jan 9, 2012 2:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Willie Young has learned as much as he is going to learn from the bench.

The only way he will get better at this point is playing time. You are not talking about a rookie any more. You are talking about a guy that has had a couple years to develop.

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by TuffLynx on Jan 9, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry Wayno, we need a lot of depth on the D Line.

I see Cliff, Lawrence, and Willie at DE with some snaps for KVB, and Nick, Suh, Sammie Lee, and Corey at DT.

I think both Lawrence and Willie deserve more playing time, but not to completely replace Cliff. They would just need to pick up another DE IMO [if they let Cliff go].

"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!

by NorthLeft12 on Jan 9, 2012 7:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd be fine drafting a high-ceiling DE in the later rounds if Cliff left.

Let KVB mentor him.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 9, 2012 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

How about someone mentors KVB on staying home on reverses?

I still find it hard to believe that a veteran can be fooled so many times on the same play. He seems to have rubbed off a bit on Suh in that respect. Except with Suh, it is being constantly trapped. Perhaps, Suh could learn something from Nick Fairley who seems to be able to play the run while still penetrating and getting pressure on the QB.

I see great things ahead for Nick. We will need him to make an impact next year.

"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!

by NorthLeft12 on Jan 9, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Now its time ...to say goodbye

Thanks but cap casualty numero uno may be KVB. Love his motor, EXCEPT when he is running by every play to be 20 yards in the backfield. If he is willing to restructure cool, but with our other pieces on the DL I believe a DE to bookend with Avril and actually hold the edge, or make plays would be devastating.

by JaySoul on Jan 9, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what I think, KVB is in the sunset of his career

I’d rather he restructure but If we are going to lose ANY DE’s i chose KVB


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by Bret Crino on Jan 9, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with you Wayne.

We are going to plug someone else into that spot. Willie Young or LoJack or a lower level free agent.

Avril is going to want a ton of money and we need to spend money elsewhere first.

by Eddie Apoc on Jan 9, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I am not seeing Asante Samuel

If the Lions would have pulled the trigger on Samuel we would have given up our 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks to get him. That is WAAAAAYYYYYY too much. Look at it this way. We would have sacrificed both Titus Young and Mikel LeShoure to get Samuel. Samuel only had a few more good years left, and he just used one of them up.

Rumors are that the Samuel deal fell through because Samuel refused to renegotiate his contract so that the Lions could fit him under their cap. Given that the Lions cap situation may be even more dire this season, I do not see them being able to work that out this year either.

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by TuffLynx on Jan 8, 2012 5:35 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think there is anyway Philly can get that price for him and they know that.

They also can’t keep him at the current price tag. Diffrent situation Asante either leaves or stays in philly. Either way he will be forced to take a pay cut.

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by The Profiler on Jan 8, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

You may be right, but I still don't see him coming to Detroit.

Samuel is not going to give the Lions a discount to play here and that is what it would take to fit him under the cap. I honestly feel that Samuel would not accept a contract the Lions can afford without sitting out games to change his mind about his value. I certainly could be wrong about this, but that is my impression for now.

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by TuffLynx on Jan 9, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Of the corners

I want Lardarius Webb most. This sesason alone he had 67 total tackles, 54 were solo. He had 20 passes deflected. ! sack and 5 picks. ! of thos pick went for 6. He forced 1 fumble and recovered 2. In the return game he had 30 punt returns for 301 yards and 1 td although he did have 2 fumbles also so his return stats aren’t great.

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by Enforcer on Jan 8, 2012 6:30 PM EST reply actions  

Webb would be awesome, but I can't see them letting him walk

He’s due for a good payday too

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by Ee Oulo on Jan 9, 2012 3:08 AM EST up reply actions  

The Ravens are very good at keeping almost anyone that they really want.

Webb is their best corner right now. Until Jimmy Smith gets good enough to take over the #1 CB job, Webb is not going anywhere……if Ozzie can help it.

"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!

by NorthLeft12 on Jan 9, 2012 7:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Webb will be a restricted free agent.

He only has three credited seasons, so the Ravens will be able to tender him an offer and match any offer given to him. Given the cap issues that the Lions have, I don’t feel the Lions can offer Webb a contract big enough to scare off the Ravens from matching.

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by TuffLynx on Jan 9, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

It's all about the secondary and O-line

Provided we keep the defensive line intact, of course. With the corners, Webb or Finnegan would be great. Don’t know if Baltimore will let Webb go easily, though. How about splurging on Carl Nicks at guard? (of course, we have to worry about Avril and Tulloch).

I can’t wait to see what Mayhew spins. The first draft pick in the 20s should be the most fluid we’ve had in about a decade!

We have our man. It's Stafford. It's Suh. It's Calvin. It's Delmas. What we need is Man Number Two to stand up.

by halfbackattack33 on Jan 8, 2012 7:48 PM EST reply actions  

Jarrod Page

Gunther’s boy without a job I do believe at the moment and at a position of need.

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by delusional on Jan 8, 2012 9:14 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

page is free for a reason

Guy can’t cut it. If he was any good he would have been signed..especially by Detroit. He couldn’t even start in Pats piss poor secondary. Jarrad Page isn’t an upgrade over anyone we have. That’s my honest opinion. At this point I’d rather get bashed for being brutally honest about page. Then my personal feelings for Courtland. I have to think if Page offered anything he’d be a Lion or on another roster anyways.

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by The Profiler on Jan 9, 2012 12:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

exactly right

Page is not happening. Well, I suppose he could be brought in to compete at camp. I just see no way he’s on the final 53 unless something major happens to him in the offseason.

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by Ee Oulo on Jan 9, 2012 3:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

which makes it doubly irritating that he cost us a draft pick for tampering. Now that the Lions have made the playoffs, that will be our sixth round pick that we lose.

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by TuffLynx on Jan 9, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

oh chit, I forgot all about that crap :(

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by Ee Oulo on Jan 10, 2012 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

If we do pick up Finnegan or Samuel

I feel like Wright might be the better option to stay. I know that’s not a popular opinion, but I think Wright is the better “cover” guy, while Houston is the better “interception” guy. Especially with Samuel’s ballhawk tendencies, I would rather have a cover guy on the other side of the field.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 8, 2012 9:19 PM EST reply actions  

i think you gotta go with the better corner

Houston is the better corner. Wright gives up more big plays it seems. And is more apt to make big mistakes. The talent is there but he needs to seriously clean up his game. I gotta stick with the guy who’s just better…no matter how he does it.

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by The Profiler on Jan 9, 2012 12:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

We will have to agree to disagree on this.

Once again, you are comparing Eric Wright, who played with a grain injury, to Chris Houston who played with a hand injury. The hand problem does not keep you from playing well, but the groin will impact a cornerback tremendously. There is a reason that the QBs were going after Houston early in the season and not Wright. It is because they felt they had more room to make the throw against Houston because Wright was covering better. You cannot say that the QBs were respecting Wright, because they certainly hadn’t done so in previous seasons. Sorry Profiler, but I really think you are selling Wright short on this.

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by TuffLynx on Jan 9, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure I agree with your assessment of the roles tho

No doubt Samuel is the ball hawk type. The thing is this year is really the first anyone could remotely call Houston a ball hawk, and I don’t think it’s entirely accurate at that. Houston made great strides since last season to work on his ball awareness. He was always pretty good in cover before, just had no ball awareness. This year he was emphasized differently and it worked. I think the natural progression for him is next year he combines his old skills with his new skills and becomes even more effective. As long as he can keep pace with the receivers and keep aware of the play I think he’s going to be very solid.

Wright on the otherhand, not so much. I’m honestly not sure what my opinion is of him. I’m still pissed about several games, but yet pleased with most of the effort as a whole. I hope they don’t give up on him and at the least he can stay another year at least as reasonably priced depth.

I’m with the others who say Berry has long term potential. I love his physicality and appreciate his ability to stay step to step. If he keeps putting it together I think he could be our version of a shut down guy. Sure I’d like him to have sticky hands but when it’s said and done I want a reliable guy hard to target past than I want a gambler hit big miss big guy. Also keep in mind Berry has side versatility which is something we lack.

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by Ee Oulo on Jan 9, 2012 3:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it says something that Houston was targeted so often instead of Wright

really, I’d be happy with either. But, gun to my head, I’d pick Wright over Houston if we could only keep one. Wright might give up a big play every now and then, but he’s solid in coverage, and he’s versatile, able to switch between the corner and nickel positions easily.

I agree about Berry, and I’d like to keep him on as the nickel/3rd corner.

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by TheLoneDavid on Jan 9, 2012 5:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Bring back Eric

Eric is alot better then Houston.. who just believes he is better then what he actually is. Wright has the tools to be solid in the rotation, and I believe get better. To me Houston isn’t going to get better.. he is what he is and that is a serviceable #2. Would be a good nickel honestly but he feels he is #1

by JaySoul on Jan 9, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I love the idea of Finnegan and Jarrod Page!


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by Bret Crino on Jan 8, 2012 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

Eeeeewwwwww!

No thanks Brett. I will respectfully decline bringing in those two. Page might be OK to bring into camp and see if he can win a spot. Finnegan is not really better than Wight or Houston. What a lot of folks need to understand is that the problem with our secondary, at least at cornerback, is not with the starters so much. I feel that Wright, Houston, and Berry are capable enough. The problem was having them get hurt and having to rely on very suspect depth. We need to get better players at the fourth and fifth corner positions that can potentially develop to challenge one of the top three for a job in a season or two. That is all we can afford to so this season with the cap problems we have.

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by TuffLynx on Jan 9, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not as conviniced on Konz as many others are

There’s no doubt he’s got a helluva lot of talent. The guy is as strong as Raiola isn’t. The thing is he isn’t all that mobile and will be limited on the types of plays he can execute. Another potential huge factor is his height. As it is against lesser college guys it wasn’t uncommon to see guys get under him. Unless he can further refine his technique, and further stress those legs, I’m just not sure he can be the long term top flight guy many are expecting.

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by Ee Oulo on Jan 9, 2012 3:20 AM EST reply actions  

One thing thats wrong here is saying he isnt mobile, he was constantly pulling, something a lot of centers aren’t athletic enough to do.

by pvk162 on Jan 9, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I know where I want to see improvement for the Lions, but it is all about the players available.

When the Lions pick at # 23, Mayhew will look over the talent left and choose the BPA that will help the Lions win in the long run.
Could be someone on the O Line; Center, Guard, or Tackle. Possibly a CB or Safety; although I don’t know of any Safeties that are that highly thought of. Or it could be another D Lineman, specifically a DE. Later on we need youth and depth almost everywhere.

Free agents might be available at CB, S, and LB. You usually don’t see much available on the O Line, although there are some guys who might be worth a gamble.

I agree about the coaching staff. A new secondary coach might help some, as well as a receivers coach, and possibly a special teams coach. I know Kocurek is highly thought of, but I don’t see the D Line playing up to its potential either. Perhaps the Lions D just needs a tackling guru. I think we have some outstanding young talent that needs to be refined to have the impact on the field; ie. Willie Young, Suh, Berry, Delmas, and Spievey.

"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!

by NorthLeft12 on Jan 9, 2012 7:56 AM EST reply actions  

Sorry, left out Pettigrew and Titus on the offensive side of the good young talent.

Based on the improvement of Best from 2010 to 2011, I think the RB coach is good to stay.

"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!

by NorthLeft12 on Jan 9, 2012 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

We should trade down!

Especially if there isn’t a surefire OL available. Trade down into the 2nd round and pick OL or CB there.

by ziggyz on Jan 10, 2012 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

read the other day that Tolbert might not be back with SD

it might cost too much, but id really like to see tolbert split time with leshoure, with best as the 3rd down back and smith hanging around for that inevitable injury to occur.

by haywood on Jan 9, 2012 8:38 AM EST reply actions  

No room in the backfield or under the cap.

We all need to start getting into our heads now that the Lions are not going to have the money to sign any big free agents this off-season. In fact, we will be hard pressed to keep the guys we have that are good.

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by TuffLynx on Jan 9, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

hence the "it might cost too much"

i dont know that he would be a ‘big’ free agent though. hes a complementary back, not a feature back like turner was sought to be.

by haywood on Jan 10, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm ok with hanging on to wright.

But the price has to be right. To me Tulloch is number one free agent concern. If Avril walks we can deal with it but if we lose Tulloch we are in trouble.

Agree that MoMo is gone unless he wants to renegotiate his contract.

Phonz has to go.

I hope we continue to build more through the draft then through free agency. Even if it means we don’t blow everyones doors off next year.

by Eddie Apoc on Jan 9, 2012 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

Yes, these are the kinds of moves I expect the Lions to make this season.

I know the fans are chomping at the bit to get some bog names, but I really don’t think that will be possible. The money is just not available to the Lions to sign big names in free agency. We will have to churn the lower part of the roster to find some “gems in the rough” to develop.

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by TuffLynx on Jan 9, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Steve Spagnuolo

My off season target wish list. Then go from there.

by chainsaw on Jan 9, 2012 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

Jim Schwartz has already said...

that none of the coordinators will be fired this season. So we are going to see Linehan, Cunningham, and Crossman again next season. Lions fans can disagree all they want, but it sounds like that decision has already been made.

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by TuffLynx on Jan 9, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Here is a link...

To the season ending press conference from Jim Schwartz.

http://www.detroitlions.com/media-center/videos/Press-Conference-Video-Jim-Schwartz-1-9-12/9680e199-e0b5-4c51-b326-2eea2a7a4f7d

At about the 2:30 mark, Schwartz starts talking about how continuity with the coaches has been important to progress. Mayhew and Schwartz have both been very clear about making sure they do not get dragged around by circumstances and to stay on a consistent plan. The coaching staff is clearly part of the consistency that Schwartz is looking for and it is clear that he has ZERO plans to fire any of the coordinators.

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by TuffLynx on Jan 9, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

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