2012 NFL Draft Order: Lions Will Pick 23rd In First Round
by Sean Yuille on Jan 9, 2012 6:38 AM EST
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PrintWith the wild-card round of the playoffs complete, the 2012 NFL Draft order is another step closer to being set. The four teams that lost this weekend are locked into spots 21-24, and the remaining eight spots will be determined over the next few weeks as the playoffs come to a close.
Since the Detroit Lions bowed out in the wild-card round, they will pick 23rd overall. This is because the Cincinnati Bengals are slotted in at No. 21 by virtue of having the worst record among the teams that were eliminated over the weekend. The Atlanta Falcons had an easier schedule than Detroit, so they own the tiebreaker with the Lions and have their pick slotted 22nd overall. The Lions are 23rd, and the Pittsburgh Steelers are 24th. (The victory by Tim Tebow and the Denver Broncos moved the Lions up a spot.)
The first-round order for the top 24 picks can be seen after the jump.
| 1 |
Indianapolis Colts (2-14) |
| 2 |
St. Louis Rams (2-14) |
| 3 |
Minnesota Vikings (3-13) |
| 4 |
Cleveland Browns (4-12) |
| 5 |
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (4-12) |
| 6 |
Washington Redskins (5-11) |
| 7 |
Jacksonville Jaguars (5-11) |
| 8* |
Carolina Panthers (6-10) |
| 8* | Miami Dolphins (6-10) |
| 10 | Buffalo Bills (6-10) |
| 11* | Kansas City Chiefs (7-9) |
| 11* | Seattle Seahawks (7-9) |
| 13 | Arizona Cardinals (8-8) |
| 14 | Dallas Cowboys (8-8) |
| 15 | Philadelphia Eagles (8-8) |
| 16 | New York Jets (8-8) |
| 17 | Cincinnati Bengals from OAK (8-8) |
| 18 | San Diego Chargers (8-8) |
| 19 | Chicago Bears (8-8) |
| 20 | Tennessee Titans (9-7) |
| 21 | Cincinnati Bengals (9-7) |
| 22 |
Cleveland Browns from ATL (10-6) |
| 23 | Detroit Lions (10-6) |
| 24 | Pittsburgh Steelers (12-4) |
| Picks 25-32 will determined by remainder of playoffs | |
| *Coin flip needed to break tie | |
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#1-2-13-23
……#32 next year.
"To achieve victory, we must mass our forces at the hub of all power and movement, the enemies center of gravity." -Carl von Clausewitz
That is how the math looks to me too!!
Player's come and go, but fans are forever!
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Okay, now we can talk about the draft.
"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!
by NorthLeft12 on Jan 9, 2012 7:20 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
finally!
I don’t know how many more postseason games I could take before our real postseason, i.e. the offseason. So, who’s everybody want? defense, o-line, and more defense?
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My list.
OT/OC, CB, DE, OG… and then everything else, since all spots could either use upgrades or depth (excluding WR1, QB, TE, DT). Depending on what happens with our LB situation though (particularly Tulloch), LB may wind up being a huge need or completely set.
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looks like a good spot to take a corner or lb
by MP hawkfan on Jan 9, 2012 7:22 AM EST via Android app reply actions
That's what they said last year too :P
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I still don't get it
how does the team with the easier schedule get the higher pick? should be the other way around.
I suppose the assumption would be that the easier schedule should mean more wins.
To simplify, if team A is 3-1 against the NFC West and team B is 3-1 against the NFC South, team B’s wins are probably more meaningful.
The draft is designed so that worse teams pick higher
obviously help bad teams get better.
So if two teams manage the same number of wins, but one team faced an easier schedule to get those wins, then, they’re the “worse” team, thus they pick higher.
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yeah I guess that makes sense
for some reason when I was trying to reason it out it wasn’t working out. guess I should’ve written it down.
The team with the easier schedule...
should have a better record then a team with a harder schedule. Therefore, when a team with a easier schedule has the same record as a team with a harder schedule….it translates to the team with the easier schedule not being as good of a team and with that, needing a higher draft pick. Oh dear, the room is spinning.
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What buffles me more, they where ahead of us in playoff seeding and are ahead of us in draft order
Shouldn’t they be consistent with each other?
Well the past 3 drafts the players that were drafted in the 23 spot were all OL
2011- Danny Watkins
2010 – Bryan Bulaga
2009 – Michael Oher
Charles Aaron "Bubba" Smith 1945 - 2011 R.I.P.
damn
none of these are real sexy names.
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by Latif Masud on Jan 9, 2012 9:20 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
good
I am tired of sexy picks. I want ugly picks. Picks that the “draft analysts” condemn as wasted. Picks that will fill glaring holes our team has all over the damn place. DBs that can actually cover anyone? Perhaps a LT of the future that can stay healthy for longer than 2 games? How about a young stud LB? Another DB anyone? How about a Safety that actually played Safety in college instead of a missed pick CB converted?
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What are you talking about, Latif? Bulaga has turned out to be a pretty good RT.
Oher was decent as a rookie at RT, but they made a mistake trying to make him an LT. And I heard that Watkins was doing pretty well for the Eagles.
I’d say our 3 biggest needs in the draft are OL, CB, and S, followed by LB and an RB that can stay off the injury reports.
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didn't say they were bad players
just not what we’re used to from first round picks
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by Latif Masud on Jan 9, 2012 3:17 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
our need is a cb
I don’t want anymore excuses…. Cb is our need! Seems like someone always says we need o-line,or our cb will be better next year because “he has a year under his belt”,I’m tired of all this mumbo jumbo bs! We need to draft a first round cb….. We have players to trade imo…. Corey Williams for one…. Let suh and fairly play together….trade up in the draft,we are on the cusp of something great! We haven’t drafted a “top flight” corner since who? Bryant westbrook? He was ok….but there comes a time where the gm and owner need to pull the trigger! Our most glaring need is cb first….our o-line is ok to me….our back 4 is horrible in pass coverage,especially the deep ball….,so imo we should trade up and get that big time cb that will take us to the next level if not more……. Just a so. Cal lions fan voicing his opinion….. I mean I need something to talk about,who gives a Shit about the playoffs now? Lol. Lions 2012-2013 baby! NFL combine February 22 – 26 this year so pay close attention to the cb group and see who we should take.
by hostage42 on Jan 9, 2012 9:24 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Free agency first
The front office’s game plan over the last couple of years is to fill NEEDS in free agency and then taking the BPA in the draft..
by Hungry Lion on Jan 9, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Given how Bryant Westbrook turned out...
I’m not in a hurry to draft a first round CB.
He wasn’t bad…but he was oft-injured and not talented enough to go first round. People might hate me for saying this, but I would rather draft another Backus than another Westbrook.
Given how Joey Harrington turned out...
we shouldn’t have pulled the trigger on drafting Stafford then, right?
C’mon man.
You can't compare a QB to a CB.
To have an elite team, 90% of the time, you need an elite QB. “Shutdown corners,” on the other hand, are one of the most overrated “needs.” I’d rather draft a top tier OL with the 1st pick and protect our investment at QB while hopefully sparking our running game.
I watched the Lions take first round picks Bryant Westbrook one year and Terry Fair the next. Neither were terrible, but they sure didn’t do much to make the Lions a better team.
So our qb will be protected to the fullest extent with the draft of a olineman,but our back 4 will continue to get shredded? Nah…. Id rather keep backus and draft a 1st round talent at cb….. I mean as far as westbrook and fair,mayhew was not the lions gm back then,I certainly hope we are not comparing mayhew to the past regime….he’s done far,far better. Our oline can survive….our cb’s cannot survive as they are now… Every year there are hits and misses in the draft I mean by all means don’t draft Calvin Johnson because we drafted Charles rodgers and Mike Williams….because of that alone that logic doesn’t hold water. Just draft a cb and move on….the sooner we make a splash the sooner we elevate our team another step or 2…..IMHO.
by hostage42 on Jan 9, 2012 10:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If we're taking CB first then we should trade down.
Unless someone amazing has dropped to us. If we have the option of the 4th or 5th best CB and the best OC, then we should pick OC.
People are reacting to the fact that our secondary got shredded at the end of the year. That is true. But they were adequate before Delmas and Houston got hurt. You can’t say the same about our running game. It has been terrible against all but the very worst run defenses (and even then sometimes terrible).
We need depth in the secondary, no question, but we need an immediate improvement to our run game and that means interior lineman should be first. We can address CB in rounds 2-4.
Andre Goodman just advanced to the Divisional Playoffs
Long time ago that we drafted him.
Andre Goodman was a 3rd round pick.
I would love it if we draft a corner there, or even 2nd round.
I just think with our needs at OL we should spend our 1st round pick there unless we trade down.
Our only real needs right now look to be O-line and CB
Think Mayhew tries to trade up for Claiborne?
I don't know that they'll trade up for Morris Claiborne
Based on all the mock drafts, it seems the consensus is Claiborne is probably a top-5 pick as Minnesota at # 3 and Tampa at # 5 both desperately need CB’s.
I know the combine and all that is yet to happen and rankings will change a lot and all, but it seems like Patrick Peterson was an even higher-rated prospect than Morris Claiborne, but Peterson somehow fell to # 5.
Mayhew was willing to give up a 1st, 2nd, and 4th to move up from # 13 to # 5 for Peterson, but Arizona said “no”.
To move up from # 23 to # 5 for Claiborne (or even to move up to # 8 or # 9 if Claiborne falls that far), it would likely cost even more than our 1st, 2nd, and 4th, as our picks are lower this year, and Claiborne is probably not the prospect Peterson was.
We’re probably not in a position to go after any of the elite prospects without bundling this year’s first and second and sacrificing next year’s first, but there are still some legit first-round talents at cornerback like Dre Kirkpatrick, Janoris Jenkins (who comes with some character risks), and Alfonzo Dennard, at least one of whom Mayhew should be able to either get at # 23 or trade up for with no more than our first and third, leaving us with that second-round pick.
Of course, as we saw with drafting Fairley over Amukamara last year, Mayhew won’t go into the draft thinking he has to get a CB in round 1 (or thinking he has to get any position in any specific round).
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I'm sure you are right
I don’t think they’d be able to trade up that high, but moving up some might be in the cards.
Mayhew will not be just picking from a list of CBs.
As you said n4ry4 the Lions will want the best player that fits their scheme in the long run.
So once again, that probably means anyone who slips,and the Lions like,will be fair game. I think it was DrewsLions who floated the idea of a DE in the first round.
I would be totally against trading up from # 23 for a CB or other “need”. I think Mayhew has it right by taking the best player in the first round, then making a move for someone later in the second round if there is someone they really like that fills a hole on our team. ie. Best in 2010 and Leshoure in 2011.
I would like to say that having Free Agency started ahead of the draft may give us an idea about what Mayhew and the Lions will do in the draft, but again, I doubt it. If he signs a good FA CB, he may still draft one depending on who is available.
Should be fun.
"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!
1st Round will be BPA I'm sure
unless they really see someone worth jumping on depending on how other teams move up/down it could make a player they really like slide down into the late teens or something.
No Way we get Claiborne
If Minny doesn’t trade down they will either draft him or Matt Khalil at #3. Way to much to give up.
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With the new rookie salary cap those high picks have more value now.
I think you’re going to see fewer teams trying to unload them because of salary concerns. Someone (looking at you, Belichick) might trade to get extra picks if they’re short, or just like to have a lot of late-round picks.
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I feel so bad for the Bills.....
"You simply cannot escape it. It's everywhere. There is a feeling the likes of which we haven't seen in decades. Emotions are high. Morale is climbing. People, once again, have something to talk about other than how disastrous our financial situation is and the collapsing of modern society." - Yahoo sports blogger.
You start the season 5-0 and end 1-10
"You simply cannot escape it. It's everywhere. There is a feeling the likes of which we haven't seen in decades. Emotions are high. Morale is climbing. People, once again, have something to talk about other than how disastrous our financial situation is and the collapsing of modern society." - Yahoo sports blogger.
that does suck
They seem to have a lot of parts. They could well be a surprise team of next year.
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Losing Freddy hurt
"You simply cannot escape it. It's everywhere. There is a feeling the likes of which we haven't seen in decades. Emotions are high. Morale is climbing. People, once again, have something to talk about other than how disastrous our financial situation is and the collapsing of modern society." - Yahoo sports blogger.
How about starting the season 0-8 and finishing 0-8? Now that sucked! Lol
by hostage42 on Jan 10, 2012 9:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
i would love to see
us take that center out of wisconsin, Konz, we need to upgrade that oline and he would be a good grab at 23 than maybe try and grab Horsley out of vt in round two
I'd love to see us take Trevor Olson from NIU with a midround pick.
A LT with 54 consecutive starts for one of the better offenses in the MAC? Yeah, sign me up.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
Any numbers on the kid?
Height, weight, arm span, sacks allowed? ect?
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he looks like a nice mid round flier type player
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Hello Cleveland could land some big time talent,
"You simply cannot escape it. It's everywhere. There is a feeling the likes of which we haven't seen in decades. Emotions are high. Morale is climbing. People, once again, have something to talk about other than how disastrous our financial situation is and the collapsing of modern society." - Yahoo sports blogger.
I think you're right
We need someone else to draw the coverage away from Johnson, Burleson, Young, Grew, Scheff, Smith, and Best. Plus, if they force the defense to play back, the run game will benefit as well. Sounds like a great plan!
At least he looks passionate.....
"You simply cannot escape it. It's everywhere. There is a feeling the likes of which we haven't seen in decades. Emotions are high. Morale is climbing. People, once again, have something to talk about other than how disastrous our financial situation is and the collapsing of modern society." - Yahoo sports blogger.
I'm going to be seriously interested to see the roster going into next year.
We’ve got so many salary cap issues with some of our Highly paid guys. Work us some magic Mayhew.
dam
Did we lead the NFL in sacks given up or something? Why is everyone getting all camped up on an o lineman? I mean get a fa or Leonard Davis,he is on the roster….guard,tackle I know there is done to be found…..our Line is ok for now.
by hostage42 on Jan 9, 2012 10:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
My take on the OL issue is this.
This is a great year for picking up good OL to groom for the future. Not only do you have several stud players coming out, but we also pick late enough in the first to not be reaching for say, the best OC or the best OG (Konz, DeCastro, respectively. I’d be comfortable picking up a CB, but the OL will need to be addressed in the future; if we can get a head start on that, we absolutely should.
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