Off-Season Priority #1: Calvin's Contract
Even before I saw this story on ESPN, it was obvious that this off-season the Lions should focus on working out a new deal with Calvin instead of even letting him come close to free agency. However, after reading that story I'm convinced it needs to be the first thing they work on.
According to that article, his cap hit is going to be $22M (my math says $23: 14+4.5+4.5=23) which is significant, and it only gets worse if they don't work out a deal and have to put the franchise tag on him. the number goes up to the $25-26Million range. that right there is the difference between signing a pretty good player, and a no name off the street. Not to mention it gives the team no long term security of knowing they'll have him in the fold which can also impact their ability to sign other players among the obvious loss on the field.
Coming up with a number is tough, but there is no doubt he is going to be the highest paid receiver in the league - by far. He is likely to be among the top paid players in the league - period. The Lions best hope is that he is willing to take a lower average salary over a longer term and come up with a way to give him a large enough signing bonus to compensate. Realistically, even taking that into account I can't see his cap hit coming in at less than $18 - 20 Million. it would be a Mayhew miracle to do less.
I say this is priority #1 because knowing how much they will owe Calvin will impact how much they can offer to the existing free agents (tulloch, wright, and avril) that they need to sign.
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I can agree with that
Avril and Tulloch need new deals but to get that cap room Calvin might very well need to be adressed first.
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Been done
I will not comment too much on this but I been over this for 9 months it seems like. Me and another looked at this in one my many posts on the 2012 Salary cap.
wasn't trying to steal your thunder
I know it’s been discussed, I just hadn’t seen the actual numbers laid out like that – if they had I apologize. I just thought it would be good to get it to the forefront with all the “we should get this guy or that” talk happening now.
by nuftjedi on Jan 9, 2012 5:58 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
no problem
I am just getting tired of discussing this one. It needs to be done and will be done the issue still comes down to term and method. I still like what we discussed a 10 year extension with a SB and RB.
Read the article.
Wow. That’s tough.
That’s why they pay Meyhew the big bucks…
That article sucks
The guy pretty much opens with how he doesn’t want to have to write about the Lions, but is being forced to because we were good this season. Then he goes on to discuss only the nuclear options for the Lions.
Personally, I think the players want to win on this team with a little less money rather than get a payday and languish on a 6-10 Redskins team. Most of these guys were here when we were bad and they know the part they played in getting us to the top. I know CJ will get top money. If he has a 15 mil number to beat, I think we will do it without having to pay 22 million a year.
Same with the other guys. Didn’t Staff take a paycut already? Do you think that CJ wants to get paid a couple dollars more to get balls thrown at him by Tavaris Jackson or Rex Grossman? He lived though that in 2008. I can see guys like Avril get paid without getting the FA premium for going to a crap team and try to do another rebuilding project.
In the end, I trust Mayhew to work this out and cut the guys we can live without and pay the guys we need.
The article
I don’t see where you get that opinion from, Seifert covers the Lions all year long, and he’s had great things to say about them for over a year now. He’s just pointing out the difficulties the Lions will have in repeating their success, like most Wild Card teams do. Personally I enjoy reading regular content on the Lions that doesn’t come from biased local beat writers.
Its the whole "lets give the Lions the big boy treatment" stuff
And then just going into how much trouble we are in cap wise—even going into the worst case scenario and presenting it as the only scenario. No mention that the Lions seem to want to make the team better. No mention of the fact that Stafford took a paycut at the beginning of the season. Its like “big boy treatment” is code for “wishing destruction on your team”
He's written about "big boy treatment" before.
All it means is that the Lions are now in the upper echelon of the league (i.e. one of the “Big Boys”)
Before, nobody but hardcore Lions fans would care what the Lions’ salary cap issues looked like because people were more interested in whether or not they would manage to win 4 games next year. Since the Lions are good now, it’s worth analyzing cap issues because they are only two or three pieces away from a Superbowl win. Other teams now care about whether the Lions can continue to improve because we are a threat to them.
It’s clear that you haven’t been reading Seifert (I don’t mean this as a criticism). He has regularly covered the Lions and I think he actually enjoys writing about them. I certainly haven’t noticed blatant disrespect in his columns.
The only bias I see in Seifert
is his homer love for the Vikes.
and he does a decent job keeping that in check too.
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I think he's playing off of a previous article
where he writes that the Lions have finally arrived. That they’re no longer going to be satisfied with moral victories or seasons where people say, “Well it was good for the Lions.” He’s saying it’s time to treat them as a contender.
I’m not his agent or anything, so it’s ok with me if you don’t like him, and your explanation does makes sense if you haven’t read his other stuff. Just offering another perspective.
I am not worried about it
We can franchise tag him and actually get a discount until they work a deal out. I am hoping that Calvin realizes, that in order to be a winner, the star players have to play for a bit of a discount. This is the biggest reason why Indy struggled to win the super bowl. Peyton was good enough to get them there, but without enough talent in the supporting cast you end up falling short of teams who have guys at a discount or better value.
The biggest reason why the Patriots had a dynasty for so long was because they had Brady at a discount for so long.
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Formula to create a dynasty
1) find a legit franchise that is manged well from the top down (check)
2) get star players to take a slight discount so there is more quality on the team across the board (semi check)
3) draft well to continue to replenish the talent at a discount (check)
Well we at least have 2 out of 3 going for us now, in some ways we have players at a discount. Guys like Wright and Tulloch took less to come here. Guys like KVB, Burleson, and Stafford restructured to keep others here. In the long run, I believe it will all work out.
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nope
If you read the article its 120% of the last years salary. At 23 million a year his salary for 2013 will be 27.6 million then in 2014 it goes up to 33.1 million. That would kill our salary cap. We can not as a team pay that much for a player.
Here is what I wrote a few months ago
Here is my original idea
Use a 30 million SB but I think I will add in another bonus that you are talking about which I like. I think a 50 million RB after the SB ends would work. My idea would end up being a 10 year 180 million contract with a total of 80 million in bonuses.
2012: 4mil (10 mil cap)
2013: 5.2mil (11.2 cap)
2014: 6.75mil (12.75 cap)
2015: 8.55mil (14.55 cap)
2016: 10.5mil (16.5 cap)
2017: 11mil (21 cap) start of the rooster bonus of 50 mil
2018: 12mil (22 cap)
2019: 13mil (23 cap)
2020: 14mil (24 cap)
2021: 15mil (25 cap)
That is my idea now with the idea of a rooster bonus. He is still getting near a 30 percent increase in each of the first 5 years. Then it levels out when he gets his rooster bonus. That would help out quite a bit in the later years.
I still think this will work.
if you assume the cap will increase over time you are definitely onto something there
if it doesn’t, those last couple years will be rough – especially since Calvin will be on the downside of his career at that point. He’ll certainly earn those dollars in the preceding years though so it will even out.
either way something creative like you propose is the most likely way to keep him in the fold and be able to actually put a team around him for the next few years.
Cap after 2013
Right now the cap is looking to be well over 160 million come 2014. So giving up 25 million to our 2nd best player is not an issue. I am more concerned with Stafford’s next contract that is due to be looked at after next season. Please just take my word on the cap space for the benefit of all of these readers here. They have had enough of me talking about it over the past 6 months.
I am not doubting you that it will go up... that's what salary caps do.
I think how they work Calvin’s deal this off-season will do a lot to shape how Stafford’s deal winds up looking.
Staffords deal
Provided he plays at his current level for the next two years I see them going with a 200 million 10 year deal.
I think Calvin and Staff will give a discount
These two are an amazing combination. They are so in tune to each other on the field that I’m surprised they don’t finish each others sentences. They each could make far more in endorsements then they could make on the field in the next five years. They also probably realize they would make even more on a perennial championship team.
I’ve known a few pro athletes and once you get past 5 million a year, you’re pretty much talking about ego when it comes to contracts. Unless they do something really stupid; they are set for life. If Calvin and Staff want something bigger and I think they do, they’re going to toss a few million back in the pot to try to get that ring. Their agents won’t like this but money past a certain point will not make up for a less than satisfying career.
Now I'm just saying here.
Would CJ be worth some teams 2012 complete draft picks in a trade? I say yes since he’s the hot name in football.
Now, humor me here. Say we traded Calvin what could we do?
1. Get out from under that contract that is going to cause us to rebuild many other areas of the team with quality veteran talent. Doesn’t matter how good he is when your D can’t stop shit. We just proved that.
2. Restock the team with 12 fresh players at a cost of probably less then what signing CJ would of cost.
3.Rebuild for the long-term benefit of the team by spreading talent to multiple areas instead of one body in at one position where an injury at the one position would hit the team hardest.
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I know many would be very against this,
but I understand the thought process here. Building a good team is more of an accounting masterpiece than I think most fans understand. Back before the salary cap it was just about accumulating as much talent as possible, but now you have to get the best talent for the dollar. Don’t get me wrong, I would be very sad to see CJ go, and it would definitely be a dicey situation to make such a huge change to our offense (which finally seems to be working, largely do to CJ). But I think what most fans have to ask themselves honestly, “Is Calvin Johnson the best value dollar for dollar to this team?” The answer will come down to how cap friendly his next contract will be.
Correct.....he's a fabulous player, a one of a kind, but it's his uniqueness that makes him worth a teams draft line-up.
And signing him to a 140mil contract will cause of years of more then just a little scrimping on many other areas of the team.
I think no matter how cap friendly his contract is, due to our years of sucking, were going to be hamstrung by cost prohibitive contracts for at least the next 5 years.
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Ahh the lament of the Lions being bad at the wrong time
If we would have had the 1st and 2nd overall picks with the current rookie salary implemented we would be in such fabulous shape, but instead we are paying close to half of our cap space to three players: Stafford, Suh, and Megatron. And I think having those big rookie contracts will only make it harder to sign them for more cap-friendly new contracts (although maybe it will work the opposite way and these guys will be more willing to give up a little because they already are set for life).
I am sorry but your are NUTZ!
As you see from my comment above about his contract numbers that could work. He will get a 10 year 180 million dollar contract. That would be the largest contract ever for a NFL Player. Only Manning’s contract would be at a higher per year salary. We can do this early before the rise in player salary will only increase our costs. The simple fact of the matter is trading him will only hurt this team and put us out of the playoffs for next year. Plus how many teams are going to be able afford a 20 million a year player.
It's not just about next year, that's my point.
It’s for the long term balance of the team where we’re not shortchanging other areas(LB,CB,O-line) due to his contract.
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dude
The Cap is going to be ugly the next two years but after that these teams are going to have money flowing out of their ears. You do not let a talent like CJ go. Its just not a way to do it. If we were talking about his 3rd contract I would say yes trade him for some value but he is still under 30 years of age. He is proven talent and you want to risk it for some unproven talent. I am sorry but that is nutz, I mean real mental health nutz. I would personally lock up mayhew in the nut house if he did what you propose. Think about this 2014 160 million, and then 4 plus million a year after that. The way I have the contract written up only the first 5 years are a rough spot but then again its still lower than what he is going to make this year.
There is another caveat that I can not control that is going to raise the bar even further. NIKE is taking over the uniform sales which means that 40 to 45 percent that the NFL is giving to the players will more than likely raise more than the 3 million or even 4 million per year that it has in the past to something like 6 million. I can not confirm what is going to happen but just think of the uniforms some of these teams are going to changing to and how that will increase uniform prices. The simple fact of the matter the NFL is in a golden age of money. They have some monster 10 year deals with only the Direct TV deal left to look at and with it sitting at 1 billion a year who knows what that price be starting in 2015.
+1
Under most circumstances, I would say trade him and get what we can…but this is one of the most gifted receivers in NFL history in a pass happy league…and he’s JUST NOW entering his prime.
by Suhper Megatron on Jan 10, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
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by Suhper Megatron on Jan 10, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
I see your logic
but I think the Lions have grown beyond having to sacrifice top tier talent in order to plug a plethora of holes. Good teams don’t sell talent to plug holes, they build around talent, which is I think what Mayhew has done in the past 3 years. Sure, we still have holes, but Calvin is arguably the best player in football and I think trading him will set the franchise back to where we were a year or two ago (i.e. a promising team with a lot of young talent but unable to get to the next level).
by Suhper Megatron on Jan 10, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
See our difference is your looking at it just from the O perspective.
When our biggest issues were on D. It doesn’t matter how great CJ is if were losing 45-41 games, and getting serious picks for him while he’s hot would go far in correcting the D’s ills, and not jam up cap wise.
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by delusional on Jan 10, 2012 1:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The offense is built around Stafford, not CJ.
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by delusional on Jan 10, 2012 1:23 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
fair point about Stafford
I mean I shouldn’t say “Trading Calvin is wrong in any situation”, but I think unless the return is something like 6 1st round picks and a small child, I don’t think it is worth it to trade away on of the best players in his generation
by Suhper Megatron on Jan 10, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think a complete draft is the way to go if you are trading CJ
I think you are better off doing like 2 first rounders and three second rounders.
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As much as I love CJ
I am not convinced that we have to pay him absurd money.
When was the last time a SB winning team had a top 3 WR who was being paid top 3 WR money?
Seriously, I can’t remember the last one.
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I could care less about history
the fact is we’re never sniffing the SB without CJ unless our Defense suddenly becomes DRASTICALLY better. Which I don’t see happening within one offseason. It should be better, but we’ll need to continue to ride this top 5 offense for a while and the 9>81 connection if we’re to have any immediate chance of SB talk IMO
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Defense suddenly becomes DRASTICALLY better.
That is my point. The entire team is going to suffer if he starts making the kind of salary cap killing money it looks like it is going to take to keep him.
You can’t give one player 20% plus of your cap when you have 2 other players taking close to 20% themselves.
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Bingo!
And the fastest way to improve the team for the LONG TERM financial and overall talent level of the team is to trade CJ.
No way in the hell would the O dry up and wither if CJ wasn’t on the team, and just think what we could do with an additional 6 overall picks, or 4 top picks to use a trade bait, or to stock key spots on D.
Signing CJ to some silly 6 year contract is NOT the best thing to do for this team.
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Signing CJ to some silly 6 year contract is NOT the best thing to do for this team.
I hate saying this so much but….
exactly.
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Just think what Mayhew could turn 10 or 12 picks in the way of talent spread through out the roster.
And even still have Stafford, and all of the other offensive weapons along with 1 or 2 he would add.
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I just asked Seifert, and he answered that he's a once in a generation player and should be kept.
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and this is true
if you trade away Calvin, who is going to want to come here? there is more to these moves than money.
Free Agents will be leery to come, draft picks will hold out, not to mention the fanbase.
Come on, for real? These players know it's all a business.
Their feelings are hurt by a player being traded.
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yes for real
you really don’t think players – the ones that actually want to win – look at how teams treat their players? obviously it doesn’t completely cut you off, but it can have an impact.
and to think it wouldn’t have a negative effect on the fanbase is very shortsighted. the ONLY way you’d prove to anyone it was worth it would be to win a SB right after doing it.
Now I understand there is a limit as to how far you can go to keep him and that Stafford is more important ultimately, but I just can’t see anyway you trade Calvin. Besides, with the cap and the way things are set now I don’t think you’d see any team come up with a package worthwhile anyway.
Players are all about the paycheck, as long as their getting paid their value they don't really care from whom.
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you crazy
I am not even sure how to argue this with you. you can always see players go to the “good” teams and it isn’t always for the most money.
yes there are exceptions and some guys just want a check or sometimes the offer is just way too high to pass up, but you see plenty of guys stick with winning teams without testing free agency because they want to win.
I dont buy this
Stafford is the future of this team.
Hell man, if you want to be honest. I would rather trade Suh than Calvin but that is because I think he is less valuable and over paid.
You can’t say Calvin is overpaid.
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well, he is right
He is a once in a generation player.
But is that really worth 20% or more of your salary cap?
I ask again.
When was the last time a SB team had a top 3 WR or a top 3 paid WR on their roster?
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Arizona with Fitzgerald.
But it shows it was a one time fluke as what has happened since?
That’s why for team stability a top defense with an above average O(PGH) will keep you in the hunt year after year.
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You could also make the arguement
A top notch offense with a mid-level D will keep you in it year after year (NE and IND). Although the years NE actually won it they did have good defenses.
Indy had a good D too
Those two DEs could take over games on their own.
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That is the best pair of DE's in the NFL
however, I wouldn’t count that D as a whole as being better than average.
That is the best pair of DE’s in the NFL
That is the point. Those two guys could make an average D look utterly dominate on their own.
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I remembered Fitz
but they lost.
When was the last time a top 3WR or top 3 paid WR was on a SB winning roster.
I am coming up blank man. I could search but i think it would pop if it was anytime in the recent past.
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I'm just thinking getting there, not actually winning it.
Even still, ARI was a flash in the pan with Fitz, where as PGH is there year after year….I know PGH is out but they had a nice 10 year run with that D.
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A team built like that is a little less susceptilble to
becoming crippled due to a single injury. We all saw what happened in Indy this year, and I definitely wouldn’t call NE a real contender the year Brady was injured.
I guess the tradeoff of this whole scenario is do you want the best in the league at a high-pay position or near the best at 2 or 3 less glamorous positions. The single higher salary is a high-risk/high-reward proposition, while the latter tends to be more stable.
Give me stable
with a franchise QB and enough above average weapons to punish teams on offense.
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Colts in 2007 (win). Harrison was the #2 receiver in yardage. Wayne was #3.
Pats in 2008 (loss). Moss was #2
Fitz in 2009 as mentioned
and last year Jennings was #4
I didn’t check the money on all these, but I am pretty sure Harrison was up there in pay when he got there, and I don’t think Moss was cheap either.
ok, checking the money......
harrison 2008 salary 7.6 million (i know it is a year late but suggests the prior year was less)
Moss 2008 1.9 million
Fitz 2009 9 million 3rd in league
Jennings 2010 10.5 million 9th in league
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Money is a tough indicator, it usually plays catch up to the actual production.
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well
that is the point.
Fitz got his after being an amazing WR on a SB team’s run to the title game.
Paying CJ more than Fitz right now is a little crazy in my mind.
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why does a superbowl have anything to do with it
Calvin is equal to fitz in making great catches. but greater than fitz in athleticism and speed and size
Because it is about production
On that SB run, Fitz showed that he could be a difference maker in a playoff run.
CJ has shown that in the regular season. Not in the playoffs yet.
and we all know, there is a huge difference between regular season and playoffs.
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JOSH
Didn’t Calvin just get 10 or 11 catches and TWO touchdowns for over 200 yards against the Saints?
yup
did we win?
did he do it for more than one game in the playoffs?
has he shown he can do that for 4 consecutive playoff games?
I am not pinning the loss on him. But having one great playoff game does not make a career.
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True BUT,
with CJ it’s a safe bet that it will occur more. We’re not talking about some guy coming off the bench and wowing everyone surprising people. We’re talking about a guy who keeps proving himself over and over again.
by Usmarine0341 on Jan 12, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
well
I agree but the Saints are not exactly the standard of Defense in the league.
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This is the dumbest thing I have ever read... People actually support this?
You trade Calvin for a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4-7 (9/10 garbage players)? All of whom could be awful? Alright the only way I trade calvin is if it comes with dominant player AND 2 first round picks.
Now, forget the compensation for a second… You trade calvin and watch Stafford NEVER come close to 5000 yards or 40 tds again. Have you been watching the games? Every deep pass to calvin is thrown up on a hope and a prayer and the best WR in the game makes an incredible play and catches it. Very few of his deep passes are perfectly accurate. You throw those passes up to titus young and the are picked off (see the NO game).
Final Point: Trade calvin and watch this team tank
In your opinion only.
Which to me doesn’t mean much, so we’re even.
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I never want to see Staff throw for 5000 yards again
That is far too much riding on one players shoulders. 3500-4000 is more than enough along with 2000-2500 yards on the ground.
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He'd have a much longer and healthier career with those numbers.
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hell yeah
and the team with win more with more consistency and drive much deeper into the playoffs each year.
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I NEVER want to see Staff pass for over 5000 again
Hell I’d like to see him sitting around the 3600 range. This will mean we actually have a real running game and a balanced attack. This will spring our receivers to man on man coverage. This will keep defenses honest. We will see defenses puttting 8 men in the box to stop our running game and then rip their secondary apart with the pass. Play action will be able to be utilized. I never want to see us throwing for over 5k again.
by Usmarine0341 on Jan 12, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
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I think this all comes down to Calvin
If CJ is willing to give the Lions a decent discount on his salary so that the Lions can spread round the money and keep a more talented roster, then he is likely to stay a Lion. The real question is how much Calvin wants to stay in Detroit and be part of the solution rather than becoming a problem himself.
The bottom line is that teams like the Saints and Packers do just fine with having lesser receivers than Calvin but having more talent spread across the entire receiver corps. While having a weapon like CJ is great, it is not essential to winning a Super Bowl. It is more important to have talent across your roster than one really super talent.
There comes a point in negotiations where Calvin Johnson is worth more to the Lions in a trade than he is as a player. If the Lions can get maybe five draft picks in the first two rounds for Calvin, then you have much more talent on the roster from him that you get by keeping him. In the long run, those five players are likely to contribute more to the team over time than any one player can.
Look at this scenario for thought…
The Lions trade CJ to Atlanta and get Julio Jones, 2 first round picks and two second round picks. With the picks the Lions get another stud receiver to match up with Titus Young and Julio Jones. Now you have a very young and talented receiver corps across the board. The Lions also get a stud cornerback and two stud offensive linemen with the additional picks.
The question now becomes if two receivers, one cornerback, and two offensive linemen all drafted in the first two rounds give more value to the team than Calvin Johnson does. I say yes. So Calvin has to come into a proce range that makes sense for the team or else he needs to be traded while his value is sky high.
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by TuffLynx on Jan 11, 2012 1:51 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Their talking about this on 97.1 now.....His cap number is 26 mil next season.
I agree with your assessment TL.
But to just call it crazy, or insane, or whatever my thoughts were called by some, is just not very well thought through criticism. I don’t want to see Calvin go either, but I also don’t want to see the team flounder under cap restraints and have the same discussion about the D next season because we can’t sign top flight talent due to money issues stemming from Calvin’s contract.
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Four day one picks and Julio for CJ?
I love CJ but I would take that deal in a heartbeat. Of course, Atlanta doesn’t have enough picks to make that deal (they already used up 5 to get Julio) but it’s an interesting hypothetical.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth
What does all of this mean? No matter which way they turn, the Lions will be on the hook for a ceiling-crushing commitment to Johnson. Unless he makes a cash concession to lessen the cap hit, the Lions are in a really, really tough spot.
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