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Lions Quotes: Jim Schwartz's End-Of-Season Press Conference

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Detroit Lions head coach Jim Schwartz met with the media on Monday afternoon to wrap up the 2011 season. He addressed a number of interesting topics during the presser, including the status of several injured players, if he expects all of his coordinators back and the defense's issues late in the season. You can check out his comments below (transcript via the Lions media staff).

On how he feels now about the Saints game: "Probably the way I felt after the game. We were able to score on offense, missed a couple opportunities there but it was really more about missed opportunities on defense. With a team like the Saints, they are going to get some yards, but you got to find a way to stop drives and that is going to come from 3rd downs that is going to come from turnovers. We stopped some drives in the first half with turnovers and had some other plays that we didn't make. We didn't do a very good job on 3rd down. Even when we stopped them on 3rd down, we allowed the conversion on 4th down and they were able to keep drives alive and then big plays, particularly in coverages that we shouldn't give up big plays. It just made it that we couldn't score enough with them because of those things."

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On if he can look back and appreciate the good year the team had now that season is over: "I think it was an important year for us. I certainly wouldn't classify it as a good year. I think our expectations are high, but it was an important year for us. It was something - getting to the playoffs - that hadn't been done for a long time and that was an important step, not just for the organization and the city but for individual players to have gone through that and things like that.

"I think you look over the course of the season we were, I don't want to say consistent, but we beat the teams we should have beat. I don't know if that is the best way to put it, but you see a lot of teams that are still playing that had some games that they lost to teams that were maybe not so good. The thing we really need to take another step that and it was an important step for us, but the other thing we need to take an important step is having a better record amongst the peer group, meaning the playoff caliber teams. I don't want to include just the 12 teams that made the playoffs. There were a lot of teams like San Diego, Oakland, Chicago, teams that were in that peer group, I guess you could say. You look at the development of our team and everything else and that is probably the next step for us. It is not coming up with a win against Denver, splitting against Chicago, or playing close games against Atlanta or San (Francisco) or whatever, it is having consistent wins there. I think that is probably the biggest step we need to take.

"Like I said, you are proud of the effort and proud of the fact that we didn't have any of those lapse games where we lost to another team. We came close a couple times but we were able to find a way to get ahead on the scoreboard. There are a lot of steps that we have taken. We have talked about them here. Finally winning a game, winning a division game, winning a road game and things like that. Going to the playoffs is a big step but that is obviously not our end game or something that is the last thing we want to accomplish."

On if he expects any player turnover: "I think every year we will see less turnover. I think that is obviously a good sign. There was a lot to turn over from 0-16. Didn't really show in the record the next year going 2-14, but each step along the way you have seen a little less turnover and that comes from drafting well and signing free agents that are with you for a long period of time. Not just guys that are there for one and done, but guys that you can move forward with. I think we have a good nucleus here. We have a good group that we can go forward with. I think we have had continuity, not only from a front office standpoint, but from a coaching staff standpoint. We haven't been starting over on special teams, offense, defense the last couple years. That and getting players that fit in a philosophy that works when you are not changing your philosophy every year. So I think in that case, there is something to be said about the young players that we have and the position we are in to be able to continue to put seasons together like we just had."

On if he expects to have the same coaching staff moving forward: "Part of the thing with having success is you are going to have guys on your staff that get promotions and move on and things like that. I don't necessarily view that as a negative. I think that is healthy for a team. But that being said, I wasn't really going to comment or speculate on it. I think, like I said, we are in a good position. I think we have a good group of coaches mixed with experience and younger guys, some former players, some guys that never played, but I like that dynamic and I like the consistency. Like I said, we were consistent from a preparation standpoint, from a game plan standpoint, from week to week."

On if he expects the coordinators to be back next year:
"I would expect, but, again, when you - particularly the offense - perform the way that we did last year, coaches are going to get recognition. People are always going to try to get a piece of the success that you've had, whether it's been developing a young quarterback, dealing with injuries or anything else. We certainly have guys that are deserving; we have guys that will end up being coordinators on our staffs that are position coaches right now. We have guys that are quality control coaches that will get position-type jobs. That's part of the NFL and it's part of success and it's something we're going to have to deal with at some point over our time here."

On what he needs to do specifically with the defense in light of the final two games: "I think it's more than the last two games; it's probably the last six other than the San Diego game. There's a lot of ways (to look at it). How much of it was due to losing Delmas and Chris Houston and Willie (Young) and Lawrence Jackson and those guys? We lost a lot of depth on our D-line; we lost a couple key players in our secondary. We didn't adjust well to dealing with those injuries. I think you look at the injury situation: our offense, other than the running back position, was relatively healthy over the course of the season. Defensively, I don't think we could say the same. It's the same defense, I think, after about week 8, 9, 10, whatever it was, that was a top-10-type defense. Obviously we didn't finish that well. We did well in certain areas. Takeaways were still high and sacks and third-down percentage were all still good. But over the last, I don't know how many games it was - six - we gave up way too many points, other than San Diego. That comes from keeping those guys on the field, developing some more depth. We certainly still have work to do there."

On how important it is for him to get a contract extension: "I don't have any comment on that."

On how much he will evaluate his defensive scheme this offseason: "I think that there's something to scheme and how it matches up against certain opponents and there's also what you're able to do with the talent you have and it's also what you're good at. I think those same schemes were allowing 10 points to San Diego. Same schemes did things very well. I think there's a consistency part to it and, certainly, we're always a work in progress when it comes to that. I think the most important thing scheme-wise is matching schemes to your talent. We've talked about that a bunch. We never really went in saying, ‘Hey, this is what we're going to run.' I mean, look at us offensively. We spent a lot of time these last few games with three wide receivers and two tight ends on the field. Why? Because it was Scheffler and Pettigrew and Burleson and Titus and Calvin. I mean, those were good players. The first game of the year, we didn't run that, but it was dealing with it. I think there's something to that with defense. Every year's a new year and, when we lost players defensively, we weren't as consistent as we were when we had our full complement. That's something we're still working on."

On if he can confirm that T Jeff Backus had surgery and if any other players are having offseason surgery:
"Yeah, Backus was injured in the game - injured his biceps - and was scheduled for surgery today. So I will confirm that, but I have not gotten any reports yet on that. He's going to miss a significant portion of time. We'll have other guys that will have had things here and there, but it'll all be guys that have either already been operated on or finished the season with us, but that's no different than any other year. You always have guys that will have an ankle cleaned out or a shoulder cleaned out - stuff like that. Jeff was really the big one that came from this last game."

On DE Cliff Avril's contributions and how it helped the team this year:
"It's one thing to have double-digit sacks, but Cliff had more of an impact than just that because of the forced fumbles. It goes hand-in-hand with getting sacks a lot of times, but Cliff has a knack for it and that gave us a big push. We didn't finish the way we wanted to defensively, but we got a lot of turnovers and Cliff was a big part of that. I think Cliff is also a guy that was drafted before I got here, but we've developed him. He's developed with us, he's become a better player every year, he's added to his arsenal every year and he's been a hard worker. I think in all of those things we recognize and we certainly aspire to have as many good players - particularly young guys like Cliff - around here for as long as we can, but it's January. It's early January and we've still got a long way to go before we start talking about free agency and everything else."

On having tougher decisions to make personnel-wise as a team gets better and if he will have tough decisions this offseason: "Potentially. There are tougher decisions when you're trying to figure out how you're going to keep all your good players than how are you going to get rid of all your bad players. Honestly, that's the difference between a couple years ago and now. If you keep drafting well, you keep signing good free agents, you develop young players - not all of them high draft picks - but you develop young players and do that and you're going to have some of those decisions. But, again, it's too early to even be more than just a glance talking about that. We're talking about middle of March before some of those things come up. We've got a long way to go before then."

On if the defensive line regressed this season: "I wouldn't say regressed as far as rushing the passer. We weren't always as consistent stopping the run as we needed to be and I think a lot of that came from long runs. Were the long runs the fault of the defensive line? Generally, they're not the last person there to be able to make a tackle. A little bit like talking about having good players on your team.There's going to be guys on your coaching staff and there's going to be guys interested. When you can rush the passer well, people are going to take steps to try to eliminate that. If you're a good running team, they're going to be loading the front side trying to stop the run. If you're a good passing team, they're going to be playing a lot more guys in coverage. And we dealt with that a little bit this year and I think we're still productive rushing the passer, particularly from the D-line standpoint. Just from a front four-production standpoint, I think we were top five in the League; we were somewhere in there. We expect a lot from those guys. We saw our depth, particularly when we had our full arsenal, we were effective. When we lost a couple guys due to injury, suspension, whatever it was, we saw some of that productivity drop for a few games, but - like I said - when you bring that to the table, people are going to do their best to take it away and then you have to be able to find other ways to be able to succeed. Certainly wasn't disappointed in the D-line."

On how the injuries to the running backs limited the offense: "You know, a little bit. We got a boost out of Kevin Smith when Kevin came back until Kevin got hurt also and sort of limped through a few games before finally getting a little more healthy for the last couple games. But it is what happens in the NFL. We had some injury situations at other positions and, like I said, you just have to figure out a way to be able to get through with what you have and that is one position that was a little bit of a star-crossed position. We lost Leshoure in training camp, lose Jahvid, I think Week 7. Kevin comes in, does a good job, he gets hurt also. We threw it a little bit more, but we can throw it. But that being said, it will be good to be able to get those guys back. Be nice to be able to slam Leshoure in there in short-yardage situations and have a good power running back, not just in short-yardage, but doing those kind of things. One thing we talk about is Calvin all the time affecting coverage, Jahvid Best affects a lot of coverage also because he is a tough matchup for a lot of linebackers so teams that want to play man, 2-man, and give space inside, Jahvid is a guy that give them a lot of problems. We see it with the Saints. Saints with Sproles gives you a lot the same problems and as much as Calvin frees up coverage, we have other guys that do the same thing, including Jahvid. The more weapons, the better and certainly both of those guys I would consider weapons."

On if the injuries makes it difficult to judge DT Nick Fairley's season: "I think a little bit, sure. He missed all of training camp and Titus Young missed all of training camp, but after that he was healthy. What you saw from Titus is every step along the way, he got a little more involved in the offense and also having more production as the season went on and the injury he had in training camp, he didn't carry over. The hamstring had healed up and it didn't carry forward with him. Nick was a little bit different. Nick missed all of training camp and then it was just sore throughout the season. I have had a lot of experience with guys that have had broken feet, screws put in, and things like that. They have had the same experience. It probably won't be for a few months now in the offseason of rest before that thing will be in his rearview mirror. But I think we also saw enough when he was healthy that we know we have a really good player there and a guy that can affect the game and make plays for us. I think it was good that way. I think we feel very strongly about him physically. I think it is very difficult not having players on the field. We experienced it a couple years with our quarterback. But just like that Matthew who in brief glimpses showed us what he can do; I think Nick did the same thing. Maybe over his career, maybe next year, maybe he will be better for it. It was difficult not having him on the field, being able to rotate him in, be able to see production from him and things like that. Maybe that perspective helps him down the road. We expect this injury to be behind him as soon as it gets to where it is not being irritated by going out to practice. You are talking about a rookie that missed all of training camp. The best process for him was resting him all week and playing him on Sunday. Well that is fine is you are Kyle Vanden Bosch or Corey Williams or a guy that has a lot of games and experience in the NFL. Very difficult for a rookie to be able to do that. That was the position he was in a lot of the year."

On not worrying about a quarterback for the next decade:
"Yeah he's only 23, so I think we got more than a decade. I think we can take him past 33, maybe at that point it will be somebody else worrying about him other than me, because I'm older than he is. I don't know if I'll last as long as he does.

"Obviously there's a reason that we drafted him and there's a reason that we stood behind him. You know, I think that...I'd say this: we still have a lot...I don't want to say we're just scratching the surface, because it's hard to say that when you throw for 5,000 yards, but it's only the beginning. It's only beginning for this team, it's only beginning for our offense, it's only beginning for Matt Stafford, Calvin Johnson, and everybody else, but I think that the big thing is...You look at everything that he's done, probably this year included, but even going back to his rookie year, nothing was ever too big for him.

"Going to the playoffs, and starting, being injured-all those different things. You know, he was up to all of it and I think that's tremendously... comforting's a bad word-but it's a good feeling as we move forward."

On officiating incorrectly, does the NFL say "we owe you one": "No I don't think there's any owe-ing. It's a week-to-week thing in the NFL.

"The thing that was a little disappointing about that is the week before, we had been on the other side of that where rather than blowing a whistle, they were letting a play run that was a fumble that, ‘Hey, let it go and see if somebody's going to pick it up.' And we had to challenge our way to get that back, which cost us a challenge and then we weren't able to (challenge) the scoring play.

"You see a lot of scoring plays. I mean, it's very difficult to officiate in the NFL. Particularly with replay, you know, everybody's got 20 camera angles, and slow motion, and the game's not played that way, and it's not officiated that way, but when you have that there, it was a little bit interesting, because we were on the wrong side of it two weeks in a row.

"A little bit like last year, we were on the wrong side of the Calvin Johnson rule and then very next week we played Philly and a guy dropped the ball and completed a catch and they called it a completion. We had to challenge our way out of that.

"Hey, it's life in the NFL. They're doing the very best they can, but that certainly would have been a big play in the game. We were able, particularly, go score right there, because we didn't score off of that on offense-go score there. And we needed all the...obviously, the way the game ended, we needed all the help we could get, but that could have been a big momentum thing for us and even had us in a better position at the half of that game.

"Who knows how the game would have turned out and everything else, but you know, certainly you'd like...I think it's interesting too, is we had talked a lot about Chicago. Remember the Chicago game we had a ball that was a forced fumble that we, you know, a couple of our guys looked at it like it was a dead fish laying there on the ground. (It) made a big point about, 'Hey look, you got to play through the ball, not the whistle, that's what the league...that's the league's, sort of, term for that-play through the ball, not through the whistle, and we did in this case, but we were on the other side. I mean, but hey, it's the NFL and stuff like that happens. What you got to do, is you got to be good enough.

"You can't give up big plays on defense when you're in cover two and you can't, you know, miss some of the opportunities that we have when you have balls in your hands and drop them. You know, if we had made all those plays and that play occurred, maybe you got to complain, but we didn't make enough plays on our own to complain about anything else."

On if they'll be an emphasis on developing talent along the offensive line this offseason: "I don't want to say any more priority than just about every other position. We want to get good, young players at every single position and develop them. I think we reset back there a little bit with the injuries to Jason Fox. That was a guy that spent a lot of time...and we knew when we had drafted him as a rookie that he had some issues that were going to hinder him a little bit during his rookie year, but after that, he was...it appeared he was through those woods. He began training camp and Jeff Backus was injured and had a great opportunity to go out and play left tackle for us and start and play preseason games while we were waiting for Backus to come back.

"Unfortunately, he hurt his foot (the) first week of training camp, whatever it was, and then missed time from there and then we came back, he got his other knee and had to have surgery, so that certainly set us back there a little bit. We still have high regard for him, but the biggest thing is he needs to put injuries behind him.

"We've had a lot of work on this team. We were fortunate enough that we had some experienced offensive lineman that had been through here and then some guys that were high draft picks-guys like Gosder Cherilus, was a first round draft pick year before we got here. Dominic Raiola, Jeff Backus ,Stephen Peterman-they were very, very experience players, and you know, even though we certainly always took the approach of trying to draft the very best players that we could, you know, there were a lot of other things that we needed also. We do need to develop good young players there, just like at any other position."

On T Johnny Culbreath's surgery:
"He had a procedure on his elbow - not that big a deal."

On T Jeff Backus:
"He didn't start the season probably as well as he would like - as well as we would like. You could point to a lot of different reasons for that. He obviously missed a significant portion of training camp with a (pectoral) injury that he had during the lockout. But I thought that he settled down and then I felt protected very well as the year went on and has consistently been one of our best run-blockers also.

"A little bit that gets lost with Jeff is that Jeff is a very good run-blocker; very good at getting up the linebackers and cutting guys off and things like that. So it's not all just pass blocking.

"He's been a very, very consistent player over the course of his career. I think that last year we saw him have a couple rough outings early in the year and settle down and had a really good year. I think this year he had some rough outings early in the year, but again, being the veteran he is, he was able to settle down and hold that position down and do a good job for us there."

On whether there's concern that Backus won't be ready for training camp:
"I never put timetables on (those), but that's certainly not... I wouldn't expect it to be waiting until then."

On whether this team is at a point where they can target specific players and positions instead of just taking the best player available in the draft: "I think it's a lot easier to see the needs that we have, but I don't think it changes your philosophy. I think it's a little bit like we talked about before: you can fall into a trap there. ‘Hey we're 10-6, all we need is this and keep everything else the same.' Well that doesn't work in this league. You've got to have philosophy, you've got to be able to stick with it and be able to keep going. There's a lot of other ways to improve. You see other teams in the league that have weaknesses and things like that and they draft positions that people don't necessarily think are there need and things like that. I think that the key there is that we have a lot less needs than we've had in the past. It would be easier to fill some of those, but I doubt very seriously if that will go into our thinking when it comes to draft and free agency and things like that. What's served us well is having descriptions and matching guys with talent and not passing what we consider are better players. It's tough to do that sometimes, but if you want to be built for the long haul, if you want to have some guys for Stafford in 2022, you have to be able to stick to that philosophy."

On the tackling issues on defense against New Orleans:
"It wasn't our best job tackling. They've got some good, strong running backs that ran through some tackles; we had a couple guys that got a little over-anxious with some bad angles at times. That allowed them to get some first downs that they probably shouldn't have.

"There were a lot of things defensively that we needed to do better. We couldn't give up those long plays, and we did; we need to do better on third-down and we didn't and obviously tackling - it wasn't for lack of effort, it wasn't for lack of effort, it wasn't for lack of talent. I think you have to give some credit to those guys; they made some outstanding runs, particularly their running backs made some outstanding runs and broke tackles. I think it was combination of both of those."

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Hey Sean...

if there a link to video or audio of the presser?

This is DBB, and this is what we do.

by V. on Jan 9, 2012 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

I was half paying attention to the press conference...

There was a point where somebody asked Schwartz a question and he answered and was laughing…I missed the question and what he was actually saying. Anybody catch that?

LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! GO STEFAN LOGAN!

by BBlades on Jan 9, 2012 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

I was talking to some co-workers

some Niner fans, some Raider fans, and one Bear’s fan. All said the Lions got “jobbed” by the refs. Most agreed it was the worst officiating they have ever seen.

Charles Aaron "Bubba" Smith 1945 - 2011 R.I.P.

by JCruize on Jan 9, 2012 10:48 PM EST reply actions  

So what changes?

Is your head as big as your Mama's ass?

by delusional on Jan 9, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Nothing

butits good to know that were not homers that are just whining about phantom calls

by Dawgs013 on Jan 10, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Unlike Rob Parker

who opines that the 10-6 2011 Detroit Lions are this years version of the 2010 10-6 Tampa Bay Buccaneers who regressed big time this year, I think the Lions will improve again in 2012. Although, admittedly, coach talking about issues with technique during week 1 of the plays is pause for concern.

Every year from 0-16, 2-14, 6-10 and no doubt 10-6 alleged top tier free agents hit the market and Lions fan shout from the rooftops to sign Haynesworth or Asomugha or Joseph and its never happened as Mayhew and Schwartz prior to this year have opted to sign mid tier free agents. And really, what logic would it have been to sign one of those big names to a lucrative contract when the Lions were not even close to making the playoffs?

But now that the Lions have made the playoffs and the goal is to improve every year then depending how the draft goes, 2012 may be the year of the Lions signing that top tier free agent.

Lewand will earn his keep balancing the books this year.

by 5Bakerstreet on Jan 9, 2012 10:50 PM EST reply actions  

The Lions do not have the money to sign an expensive gree agent this year.

It isn’t even certain that they ahve the money to resign their won free agents.

Listen to the Two Bro's Talk podcast!

by TuffLynx on Jan 10, 2012 5:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Let's not forget how those high priced signing worked out...

Where was Philly in the playoffs? “The Dream Team”, There is more to it than signing the “Best player in free agency ever”, who lays a big fat egg. Just because a guy is “coveted” by all 32 teams, doesn’t mean he is going to do anything for us. Stop listening to the media and trust our front office, they have shown they know what they are doing.

Player's come and go, but fans are forever!
"My grandma could play behind that line!"- Zack Follett

by donl517 on Jan 10, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Joseph's done pretty well in Houston.

You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space.
-Johnny Cash

by TheLoneDavid on Jan 10, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Jason Babin and Cullen Jenkins also did well.

The Eagles had their problems, but it wasn’t all because of their FA signings.

No slogans. Just win!!!

by drgarnett on Jan 10, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

So, this is my first time posting at any site other than WCG so if I offend it is completely unintentional.

I don’t normally do this and this may be my one and only comment I ever make on another SBN web site but I wanted to congratulate you guys on a fantastic season. Your team is headed in the right direction with your current core of players and the youth you possess. I know you were all hoping for more in the playoffs but this is most definitely a team that will be a playoff contender for years to come. Again, congrats on a fine year.

Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.

by Just Dave on Jan 10, 2012 12:15 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks for the post.

Much nicer then the guy that posted the “I hate the lions” fan post haha

LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! LITTLE MAN IN BACKFIELD! GO STEFAN LOGAN!

by BBlades on Jan 10, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't see how anybody here at the Pride could be offended at that.

I appreciate the kind words.

Your forum is my least favorite on SBnation, and I despise most of those guys, but I appreciate you taking some time to come thump us on the back. Thank you, sir.

That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice

by Skylar on Jan 10, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm OUTRAGED `

By your well wishing lol.

Thanks buddy its been a long time coming for us Lions fans were real excited.

by Eddie Apoc on Jan 10, 2012 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

A classy Bears fan :) thanks for the compliments

Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!

by Evilsmurf on Jan 10, 2012 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Woah...that was a Bear's fan?

It MUST be the end of the world this year!! :-D

by akadwriter on Jan 10, 2012 2:19 AM EST up reply actions  

+ 1

Eddie thatr’s awesome … lol

by RomanLion on Jan 10, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Next is a humble Steelers fan...

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle

by UndaDawg on Jan 10, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

The first horseman was Tebow

I looked, and there before me was a white horse, and on it a rider…he rode out to win many battles…
What’s Denver’s mascot again?

by mcivor on Jan 10, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

creepy

what the hell are we witnessing here people?

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by joshsun on Jan 10, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Not only am I a Bears fan.

I was once a contributing writer to WCG. I actually started a lot of crap between our fan bases. I’ll never say I’m sorry for what I said but I will tip my helmet to a team that deserves it.

Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.

by Just Dave on Jan 10, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

a realistic but dedicated fan

i’m ok with that

p.s. go sox

Life will always throw you curves, just keep fouling them off... the right pitch will come, but when it does, be prepared to run the bases. ~Rick Maksian

by oneloyaldawg on Jan 11, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Anyone know who’s going to be rfa and ufa and what not? I know Avril and a few others but I’d like to see them all broken down.

by dalrymple87 on Jan 10, 2012 2:06 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I'm so sick of Rob Parker trashing our team every chance he gets

It makes me sick that the Detroit Free Press actually pays him, and publishes him. We have enough bad in Detroit already we don’t need someone to take the hope away from our superbowl dreams. Sure, some journalism should have skepticism but you don’t want to piss of fans of the team you’re writing for. Kowalski was a master at riding that thin line. He even told Ndamukong Suh on espn face to face last year that the Lions were bad and wouldn’t make the playoffs. Obviously he doesn’t know shit, if you are writing for a team you shouldn’t dismiss their playoff chances if they’re somewhat reasonable.

Joe Berry needs to show up at Parkers house and show him some pad level to the face.

What's so funny 2011 Lions? Gordon Bombay doesn't think losing is funny.
Leshoure = 2012 Beastmode

by Dtrain81 on Jan 10, 2012 5:10 AM EST reply actions  

Rob Parker is a nitwit.

You have to listen to anything he says sort of like you are listening to a comedian. You just can’t take it seriously.

Listen to the Two Bro's Talk podcast!

by TuffLynx on Jan 10, 2012 5:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't get why he clearly hates Detroit. I mean it's one thing to be skeptical...

but another to trash a team you’re writing for consistently. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him write a positive article about the Lions. It’s actually really sad, and for him to call us the Bucs of 2010 is another slap in the face.

Can we do a Parker petition on this forum, maybe we can get it on yahoo news and have it spread viral. Maybe then he will see that actual Lions fans hate him and don’t like his brand of journalism.

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by Dtrain81 on Jan 10, 2012 6:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Is he any worse than Drew Sharp?

Sharp is already dumping on the Lions’ chances for next year.

No slogans. Just win!!!

by drgarnett on Jan 10, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Saw that.

He says:

they didn’t do all that much, relative to the consistently good teams in the NFL like New England and Pittsburgh

Kinda sad it has to be pointed out to him, but the Lions went just as far as the Steelers this year. Not to mention the fact the Steelers lost in the playoffs lost to a team the Lions DESTROYED. Good job, Drew! (At least he’s consistent.)

BTW, I also remember a very depressed Tom Brady when we met them in preseason. Just sayin’.

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by UndaDawg on Jan 10, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Rob Parker is probably trying to advance his career via trashing Detroit.

If you watch Sports Final Edition very often it’s clear that he not only hates the Lions, but he has negative comments to say about the Tigers, the Pistons, MSU, and U of M. as for that ugly witch he is on Sports Final Edition with I have no use for her either. Week in and week out all she does is complain that Calvin Johnson doesn’t get the ball enough, and complaints about the coaching staff due to it. Apparently she doesn’t know the story of Mark “The Bird” Fidrych whom some believe was taxed too much during his rookie year, which caused the injuries that shortened his career. That may be warranted if and when he only gets two catches in a game and wasn’t targeted anymore, but she will never admit that sometimes the defense dictates that Matthew Stafford target other players whom are wide open. Personally the only reason I watch Sports Final Edition (which I can barely stomach) is because once in a while Rob Parker does inform us of pending players who may, or leave our teams. Not that he’s all that accurate based on how many times he misses on what his informants tell him, but everyone is susceptible to misinformation at times.

by Jeff Lamphere on Jan 12, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

THIS is why Schwartz is a good coach.
“I think it’s a lot easier to see the needs that we have, but I don’t think it changes your philosophy. I think it’s a little bit like we talked about before: you can fall into a trap there. ‘Hey we’re 10-6, all we need is this and keep everything else the same.’ Well that doesn’t work in this league. You’ve got to have philosophy, you’ve got to be able to stick with it and be able to keep going. There’s a lot of other ways to improve.

He may get emotional at times… but he never loses sight of the big picture.

Bring us a ring coach!

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by CLF on Jan 10, 2012 7:24 AM EST reply actions  

Good year for the Lions franchise

I wonder who are they going to let go. I guess Cliff Avril. CJ and Stafford will need to get paid, then maybe keep Tulloch. Hopefully there will be some adjustments in the defensive scheme. At least mix the scheme up some. Like on offense take what the defense gives. Why not do that on defense?

by hasselhoff on Jan 10, 2012 7:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

No doubt the refs screwed the Lions alot

but it gets old hearing it. Comes across as whinning. Since week 5 thats all I heard. Bad officiating is part of the game. I look back @ the Green Bay game. The Lions defense letting Matt Flynn look like Aaron Rodgers, you can’t blame the refs for that. If the Lions win that game I believe the Lions would still be playing.

The Lions did good this year. Improving each year is a good sign, but we are not an elite team yet. 1-6 against playoff teams. Some of the comebacks were exciting to watch, but we should have dominated Panthers, Vikings early on. I put us with about the Chargers, Bears. We need to learn how to beat the Saints, Packers on the regular.

Hopefully we are on the way. Maybe Suh will grow up next year and dominate like he is capable of. We missed him the most this year. People say Suh gets double teamed alot, but thats just an excuse. During the Saints game he got punked on 1 on 1 battles. I would love to see Gunther move Suh & Fairley around, having them attack from different spots.

Please Gunther mix up that wide 9. It is too vanilla to just run the same look everytime. Our corners should press more, and maybe Delmas can start playing ball like he did his rookie year. Safety position I think is more of a liability. Our LBs get exposed cause of scheme. Looking forward to next year.

by hasselhoff on Jan 10, 2012 7:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Gunther does mix up "that wide 9".

This is one of the most overhyped convoluted memes on this blog. The idea that we’re always running the wide 9 is a fallacy. There’s plenty of times when our ends squeeze into half-9, half-7 (on either arrangement), or both into 7-tech. People need to stop harping on this like it’s gospel, it’s getting overstated.

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by Mavyrk on Jan 11, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Hasselhoff, did you even watch the Lions?

Agreed we got screwed by the referee’s, but it’s not like this was the first year we’ve seen the referee’s calls give games to our opponents. Lions fans have every right to complain about the refereeing when it cost us games and prevents us from improving our record and having an opportunity to play a “lesser” talented team (although sometimes it’s in the record only) and have a higher percentage opportunity to advance through the playoffs. It’s been the same story year after year and at some point you would think the officials would get calls wrong once in a while that benefited the Lions, but that is a very, very rare occurrence. It is such a rare occurrence that I’ll bet you could bet on it in Vegas (which wouldn’t surprise me) because I’ll bet the odds that a non-cough or phantom call will affect the outcome of the Lions game are some of the highest odds you can get in that corrupt town.

You’re quick to rip on Suh but the fact of the matter is 1.) He did get double teamed a lot this year, and 2.) This was his sophomore year, which many players struggle with in the NFL. Suh wasn’t the only Lions defensive lineman that got “punked” by the Saints, several of our lineman were getting knocked down and held all game long. Also, you’re not taking into consideration that based on what he did in his rookie year (10 sacks, numerous pressures, tackles for loss, etc.) that defensive coordinators schemed to take Suh out of the game as much as possible. As for the wide nine formation… I am not a fan of that, but we did not play it on every down and we completely abandoned it altogether just about in a few games near the end of the season. If anything I would like to see our defensive lineman standup, along with the linebackers and confuse quarterbacks (especially young ones) more often but then again I am not a defensive coordinator so what do I know?.

Fortunately there are a lot of really good players in this year’s draft, so it would be difficult to not get someone who could produce relatively soon… that is assuming they can remain healthy unlike our draft players last season. I will hate to see Cliff Averill go and if it is at all possible I seriously doubt the Lions will let that happen. From what I have read we currently have about $7 million to play with before we reached the, but that includes players who will no longer be here next year providing they aren’t under contract and not on another team. I don’t know how things are going to work out but we do have a lot of money tied up in Johnson, Suh, Stafford, and a couple of other players, and Johnson is due for a new contract real soon. Fortunately someone else will go gray worrying about the logistics of signing our current players, free agents, and rookies (which could also be a killer for us). Let’s face it if we get a quality offensive lineman high in the draft signing him won’t be cheap, and I’m pretty sure the same goes for a really good cornerback, although I’m sure the superior talent at that position will be gone before we draft at 23. The Lions are not only a better team than they were, but our secondary (and other positions with young players) is young and I’m sure they will improve as time goes on, so that’s something else we have to look forward to next year.

Bottom line I am excited with the team, impressed with the coaching staff, as well as the front office and I think we’re on the right track moving forward.

by Jeff Lamphere on Jan 12, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Does anybody know who we play next year?

Living in Texas they showed who the Cowboys play, just wondering if we knew about the Lions opponents.

by jeremy j on Jan 10, 2012 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2012/1/2/2677086/2012-lions-opponents-schedule

Home: Packers, Vikings, Bears, Rams, Seahawks, Texans, Colts, Falcons

Away: Packers, Vikings, Bears, Cardinals, 49ers, Jaguars, Titans, Eagles

by nuftjedi on Jan 10, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Hope we can beat the 49ers!

So Avril can say “Good Game. Better luck next time.” to Anthony Davis.

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle

by UndaDawg on Jan 10, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy Lord I hope you didnt type all that by hand :)

…there’s this thing called a recording..

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by BIGWalt2990 on Jan 10, 2012 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

if you're talking to me...

No I didn’t type by hand, I used my Dragon Naturally Speaking programs to type it. By the way I highly recommend that program because I’m a quadriplegic and it works fantastic for me with very little training on my behalf.

by Jeff Lamphere on Jan 12, 2012 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

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