Cliff Avril's Agent, Detroit Lions Begin Talks About Long-Term Deal
by Sean Yuille on Feb 1, 2012 11:00 PM EST
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PrintIt doesn't sound like things have progressed too much just yet, but the Detroit Lions are in the "beginning stages" of negotiations with the agent of defensive end Cliff Avril. Avril, who was in Indianapolis on Wednesday, said that his "hopes are to get something done with the Lions" in the "next couple weeks." While it remains to be seen if that will happen, Avril did say that there weren't many talks before the end of the season, so there wasn't much of a chance for progress to be made.
If the Lions and Avril can't agree on a long-term deal, the idea of them applying the franchise tag to him has been suggested by fans. Martin Mayhew has previously said he doesn't have plans to use it, and Avril has no interest in being on the receiving end of the franchise tag.
"I definitely don’t want to be franchised," Avril said today, during a visit to the Super Bowl. "I mean, I’ve been in Detroit for four years, and I wouldn’t mind being there for another couple more years or whatnot. The franchise tag kind of makes it a yearly thing, and you want security. You want to know you’re going to be there for a couple years so your family can get comfortable."
Avril wants a long-term deal with the Lions, and I think the Lions have made it clear they want a long-term deal with Avril. The money issue will have to be worked out, but it does sound like both sides want to make a deal happen.
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It will get done
I have faith. I know not everyone loves Cliff as much as I do but really do deep down belive he is an important asset to our future as a winning playoff team. I like Lojack and Willy but personally I can not say there as good or better than Avril. IMO Cliff is the BEST DE we have and have had sense probably Porsche
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I loveeee him
Just gonna be tough with all these contracts we gotta redo. I hope it gets done
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It HAS to be done
Suh, Fairley, Avril. We will have a dominant defensive line for the rest of the decade with this core. Lojack and Willy are talented, but it’s the opposing offenses’ need to stop these 3 that let them make plays.
i agree
lojack and will young who i love as player are good but none are better than cliff right know and there more dangerous coming in as the second unit taking advantage of a already tired oline
32 sounds good matt stafford
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by thelionsareking on Feb 2, 2012 1:15 AM EST via mobile reply actions
If the Lions want a top notch D Line, Cliff must be kept.
He is our best pass rusher, period. I love what Lawrence and Willie bring to this team, but neither have shown that they can play the whole season or have the playmaking ability that Cliff has.
To keep our D Line strong and deep, we need to have four DEs that can all play well.
"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!
exactly, that's our game plan
keep the pass rushers, so they can rush the passers
Playoffs for Christmas!!
by StaffordSuperBowlMVP on Feb 2, 2012 8:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The franchise tag doesn't make it a yearly thing...
it makes it a year thing. Correct me if I’m wrong…but wasn’t that one of the sticking points in the new CBA that owners had to concede to the players. The franchise tag could only be used on a player one time by the team.
Make it bleed GG...make it bleed.
I believe
It can be reused every year, however, the money the player gets goes up a ton every year that player is franchised. I’ll see if I can get a link.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6790759/what-new-nfl-cba-means-football-terms
5. Franchise tags: Although this was one of the last big issues being contested by the players, there will be no change in a team’s ability to annually place a franchise or transition tag on a top player to retain his rights
Thank you.
I stand corrected….although I do like the idea of only being able to use it once.
Make it bleed GG...make it bleed.
Cliff Avril
When you’re on the edge of the cliff, it’s good to have Cliff on the edge.
by mjkelly77 on Feb 2, 2012 8:11 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
I hope Cliff stays
It will be interesting to see what the Lions do as far as resigning thier talent. I hope there is enough money to go around.
Resigning CJ is a must. I have faith in the Lions front office to get Avril and CJ deal done.
Tom Lewand will definatley have some challenges. I’m not sure how he will be able to crunch those numbers, but thats why I sit at home and Tom has a job in Allen Park.
by hasselhoff on Feb 2, 2012 8:43 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I am resigned to accept this post
by Northern Lite on Feb 2, 2012 8:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 7 recs
Re-signing CJ
CJ’s cap hit is about 23 mil next year. That is absurd. Why not resign him to a new long-term deal and free up about 10 mil this year? It needs to be done. We are a contender!
Why lie? When the truth is so much easier to remember!
I agree
That’s why it would be smart to resign Calvin Johnson THIS year. I actually would do Calvins’ deal first, then see if Avril could be brought back at good value.
by hasselhoff on Feb 2, 2012 2:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not really ..
If CJ RESIGNs, we might be able to recoup some bonus money from him, adjust our cap numbers, but we will lose the best WR in football. Now since that is a smart thing in your opinion, I guess we must be signing the next 3 best WR’s in football within our cap ? How much would be left for Avril ?
But what is your plan for his career, you think he has a future in the art of flipping a burger ?
Couldn’t resist. Time and time again, people just ignore what’s written right above in front of them :))))))
How is securing a long term deal this year for Calvin going to lead him to "flipping boogers"?
by hasselhoff on Feb 2, 2012 4:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'll take a stab at this question
re·sign/riˈzīn/Verb: 1.Voluntarily leave a job or other position.
2.Give up (an office, power, privilege, etc.).
re-sign /riˈsaɪn/ Show Spelled[ree-sahyn] Show IPA
verb (used with object), verb (used without object)
1. to sign again.
2. to renew or extend a contract.
In short: he ran with your grammatical mistake and took it at face value instead of recognizing what you actually meant. Let me refer you to Sean’s post from 12 January http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2012/1/12/2702921/re-signed-resigned
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"I'm not puting that quote on my sig" -Bighaircut, circa 2012
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Ahh I see
Yes I made a mistake. I’m sure I’m not the first person on here who has made a mistake.
*RE-SIGN meaning the team signs Calvin to another contract. Currently Calvin Johnson plays for the Detroit Lions. If the team offers him another contract he can SIGN it and still remain on the team.
by hasselhoff on Feb 2, 2012 7:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What?
what’s weird about a guy in a ski mask riding a bear rug in his tighty whities?
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"I'm not puting that quote on my sig" -Bighaircut, circa 2012
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
You forgot the cadaverous looking studio tan the pasty bastard is sporting
"Common Sense, isn't" Solomon Short
by YpsilantiJeff on Feb 2, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
That is creepy.
Shouldn’t there be a farmer tan in there?
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"I'm not puting that quote on my sig" -Bighaircut, circa 2012
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
My thoughts on the D-Line
In order for avril to be re-signed and for the lions to keep chugging on the d-line some things need to happen this off-season. The lions must resign Avril. Suh and Vandenbosch must rework their deals and take a pay cut or backload their deals. Suh and Fairley need to be used along the edge next year (fairley) often. Pay cuts nned to happen and Avril needs to be resigned. He reminds me of Mathis from the Colts who has been productive every year.
Why lie? When the truth is so much easier to remember!
Take 9 million a year Cliff
so they can sign a couple more guys for depth. If they get real greedy and expect 11-12 I say let him walk. They can sign 3 other DE’s with that money.
Shouldn't we see the cap increase?
Every year the NFL is making more and more revenue. Shouldn’t the Cap increase like it does with hockey?
We need to get CJ in a better contract and I really want to Cliff to stay. What about the possibility that Backus signs for a lot less or Riola restructures his deal (he makes too much)?…I want Tulloch to be here too!!
Damn, it is starting to look like someone is leaving for sure. …Bye bye Wright
I think its going up a little or stay the same
the massive jump is going to be next year with the T.V. revenue.
if i had to choose between
keeping cj and letting avril walk, id be fine with it considering lojack and willie young. as much as i love avril, de’s in our scheme and with what we have on the interior are a dime a dozen.
That is not what the choice is.
There is room for both Calvin and Cliff. The problem is do you also want Tulloch, and Wright, and Shaun Hill, and Backus, and Sammie Lee, and Corey, etc. and do you want to sign other FAs?
That is the challenge in managing the salary CAP, there are so many ways to get these deals done…..if Mayhew gets creative, or ruthless, or gets a lot of co-operation from some other players who are paid pretty highly [Suh, Stafford, KVB, Burleson] or a combination of all of the above he can keep who he really wants out of that group.
"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 3, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not that it matters
I think his agent knows he can get more elsewhere. I would not offer him elite DE money, he had a good year but most players do during a contract year. Unfortunately there is a cap and Avril is going to stress that cap for years to come. I would go in a different direction and draft youth on both sides. Plug in Lo Jack and give him more reps to see what he can do.
I would also trade C Will and free up cap space. I’m sure Fairley was drafted in the first round to replace him and you could get a high second round for him, I’m thinking Carolina. With 3 picks in the first two rounds we could draft our future OT, C, and DE. Plus the rookie cap reduces our cap numbers and frees up money to be spent on CJ, Tulloch, and upgrades in the secondary.
Agree with most of this,
however, I do’nt think there is any way you can get a 2nd for C.Will. I think a 4th would be tops. I would still trade him though, use that pick to draft depth on either line.
C.Will is a hell of a player, but I dont think the Lions can afford to have 4 highly paid players on the line.
Anyone think that with Avrils talks starting
CJ’s deal must be close. We all know that was priority #1 to clear cap space. If that is almost done I see it as why they are starting there talks now.
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