Shaun Hill Expected To Re-Sign With Detroit Lions
by Sean Yuille on Feb 14, 2012 11:37 AM EST
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The last couple of years, the Detroit Lions have had quite the insurance policy for Matthew Stafford. When he went down with shoulder injuries in 2010, the Lions were able to call upon a solid backup in Shaun Hill. And when Hill went down, the Lions confidently turned to Drew Stanton. The two backups helped the Lions close out 2010 on a four-game winning streak.
Luckily, neither Hill nor Stanton needed to be called upon in 2011. Stafford made it through the season without missing any time, which hopefully is an indication of how things will be in the future. Since there is no guarantee, having a good backup is still important, and according to Dave Birkett, the Lions want Hill back and Hill wants to stay in Detroit.
The Lions have told Hill, his representatives and others that they want him back as the primary backup to Matthew Stafford. Hill also wants to return to Detroit -- and might even take a slight discount to do so.
Chances are a deal with Hill will happen at some point. The real uncertainty revolves around what will happen with Stanton. After not being active for a single game this past season, he may be inclined to look for an opportunity elsewhere, although he may enjoy playing for his hometown team enough to come back if offered a deal. At the very least, I would bet on him testing the market before anything happens with the Lions.
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I'm okay with this
Don’t get me wrong, I like Stanton as well, but having a veteran backup can only help Staff (and to a lesser extent, Stanton). Plus if he’s willing to resign for cheap, even better for our cap
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Weird to see all these guys talking about how they want to stay in Detroit
The team has come a long way.
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yeah
nice change
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by detroit_fan on Feb 14, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Lions are totally the new Rays
Tampa Bay Rays that is. They have a great coach and GM combo just like Tampa, they also couldnt buy players to come there. The Rays couldnt get anyone either. They both have turned it around after huge failures. Great to see both become top of the line teams
by RaysOfHope on Feb 14, 2012 9:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I would wanna stay too, when I;m making 2.3 mil for front row seats to watching Mega and Stafford
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by Latif Masud on Feb 14, 2012 1:03 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
We need Hill
Once we trade Staff and CJ we need him for the Hill to Burleson soon-to-be-classic connection
by ATL Lion on Feb 14, 2012 1:15 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
HA! Recked you for that ATL.
Yes, think of all the CAP space and draft picks we will have then! Mayhew can build a legitimate playoff team that can make a run to the Super Bowl. No more one and dones!
Stafford and Calvin had their chance and they just could not cut it. Losing by 17 on the road to the Saints is unforgiveable. We need to start over. LOL
"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!
Just curious...
Why do you capitalize CAP?
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
To differentiate it from the cap that I wear on my head.
I know it is not an acronym, but it seems to me to be a word that should be capitalized in this context.
Hope it does not bother you.
"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!
It doesn't bother me, it just always struck me as odd.
So I thought I’d ask.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
Shaun Hill counted for $2,273K against the 2011 CAP.
That was thirty-ninth [39th] among all QBs in the NFL. Eleventh among the back up QBs.
LINK: http://www.spotrac.com/top-salaries/nfl/2011/cap-hit/quarterback/
If he dropped down to $1,200K that would put him around forty-fifth [45th] among all QBs and sixteenth [16th] among the back ups.
Drew Stanton’s CAP hit was $650K last year.
If Shaun Hill takes a cut, I believe they will let Drew go as well. Potential savings of $1,700K with another roster spot open. So you pay that guy the minimum, say $400K, and the Lions will have another $1,300K saved.
"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!
Hill is not cutting his salary in half to stay here
Not happening man.
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He's said....
He’d rather be here as a backup and happy then be a starter and unhappy somewhere else. I think he MIGHT take a small pay decrease. I’d love to keep Hill, he makes me feel less out of shape lol
Make it bleed GG...make it bleed.
well "cut in half" and small pay cut are two very different things.
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Drew Stanton Tender
Can the Lions still tender Drew Stanton this year? I beleive the higher the possible compensation picks, the higher the salary. How high would the Lions go?
I like Stanton as well, but last year I was really hoping some other GM would lose his mind, sign Drew, and gift us a 2nd round pick.
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by TheOtherSchwartz on Feb 14, 2012 2:15 PM EST reply actions
I doubt the Lions would do that.
I think there is good relationship between Drew and the Lions. I don’t think they would do anything to hamper his ability to sign with another team. If they tendered him and he was not signed by another team the Lions would have two choices: keep him on the roster and pay him, or cut him.
I don’t see the Lions pulling that because it could really screw Drew from getting an opportunity with another team. Mayhew et al are not douches.
"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!
Nope
Drew is a UFA, so the only way to “tender” him would be to put him on an over sized grille
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by Latif Masud on Feb 14, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd for the joke
and rec’d for the humorous jab at those who don’t understand the free agency rules.
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Don't get me wrong, I love Hill and I love having him on this team
But I’m skeptical about paying a backup QB as much money as Hill is going to cost given this team’s current salary cap sitaution.
I think that is why they are talking about Hill taking a pay cut for 2012.
His pay last year was deserved for how much he actually played [ten starts and eleven games] in 2010, but if he does not play much [like the 2011 season] I am sure he would take a cut. They could build in a bonus if he ends up playing more than expected.
The other option the Lions have is to let Hill go and make Drew Stanton the back up for about half the cost of Hill. Personally, I would be more comfortable with Shaun Hill in a back up role. I think when all is said and done this is only a difference of around $500K.
"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!
If I'm going to have a backup I'd rather have a veteran who has plenty of starting experience.
And I like Shaun Hill not just for being capable but also for standing up to opponents like Jared Allen.
All of you Drew Stanton fans can try to convince me how he’s overcome his poor throwing and poor decision making. Good luck with that.
In 2010 the Lions earned the respect of the league for having the best backup QBs. I’d say that paying $2 million for a backup QB who can win games is a bargain.
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what make u think he was the best back up
hell he sucked one of u numbers guys post some stats 1 lions stats 2 san frans stats … let the bum go find work on another bench.. we r trying to get younger resigh hill draft a groom
by lionsfan4ever on Feb 14, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
Even if you post the numbers Hill was better than Stanton.
Shouldn’t post when you’re drunk, bud.
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You can have Drew Stanton if you want an older version of Tim Tebow.
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really?
I can’t see him even remotely in that role. Tebow should be so lucky to have the accuracy and even delivery of Stanton… not that his are that great.
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Hey now
what did Stanton do to deserve that comparison?
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I like it
While I would be happy with either as a backup there’s a few key differences. The most important is attitude. If Hill really is accepting he wont be a starter then he’s a better choice just based on that. He’ll have a far better attitude than a younger Stanton still wanting a chance to prove himself and perhaps be in a position to compete for the gig. That just isn’t ever going to happen here barring a catastrophe. Hill has shown he can keep his head in the right place to come in off the bench as needed. Beyond that, Stanton is going to get a decent pay raise wherever he goes, imo. Combine that with Hill perhaps taking a bit of a pay cut for a bit of longer security the difference in cost wont be that huge.
Now if the Jets cut, not going to happen, McElroy I’d be pleased to see him come in as the 3rd option and perhaps be the guy to push Hill out the door in a season or two. Granted, it might be better to have a backup with more of the Stafford skillset so there isn’t as huge of a transition in playbooks if he’s called on.
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Backup QB / Rest of team
I think that it really doesn’t matter whatsoever who our backup QB is. The team we are currently fielding is not good enough to win without Stafford.
As long as we have Stafford, we have a shot to win it all. If anyone else has to play, we are right back where we were for the last 50 yrs.
I don't completely disagree with you, but the Lions need to be good enough to win without Stafford.
This team should be able to be a better than average team with Hill at QB. Hill [and Stanton] have their short comings [the deep ball] but hopefully the Lions FO is building a team that can win without Stafford for a few games.
I think it is pretty optimistic to expect your starting QB to play every game for the next eight years. Who has done that in their career besides Favre and Peyton? Every NFL team should have a competent back up QB. I think the Lions have one of the best in the NFL.
"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 15, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
I don't understand why we have a guy who throws rainbows to back up a guy who throws lasers.
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Probably
because all the other guys who throw lasers are starting for another team in the NFL?
by Big Z in Orlando on Feb 16, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Shaun Hill is a stand-alone, winning quarterback. Don't let other teams at him!
Lions should not consider letting him be a free agent. He could get more money elsewhere. Many teams’ first pick qbs last year were not as good as he is!
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