2012 NFL Mock Draft: Peter Konz To The Lions
by Sean Yuille on Feb 22, 2012 12:17 AM EST
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As much as people like to talk about how the Detroit Lions need to plan for the future at left tackle, it seems like sometimes the need to plan for the future at center is ignored. Like Jeff Backus, Dominic Raiola isn't getting any younger, and in the next few years the Lions will likely need to find someone to eventually step in for him in the starting lineup. In SB Nation's latest 2012 NFL mock draft, they have Wisconsin's Peter Konz being selected 23rd overall as a potential replacement for Raiola.
The Lions need to get younger and better along their offensive line. Konz has the strength and the technique to make a difference right away for the Lions. Secondary help is an option here, too.
There seem to be a lot of intriguing options on the offensive line that should still be on the board when the Lions go on the clock. Konz is definitely one of them, as he is a player who seems like he could step in for Raiola and become the Lions' franchise center. The Lions don't need to make an immediate change at the position, so someone like Konz could come in and be groomed as Raiola's replacement.
Although he went in the first round in this mock draft, there has been a lot of chatter that Konz will ultimately end up being a second-round pick. If that's the case, a situation I wouldn't mind seeing is one where the Lions trade down, gain an extra pick or two (perhaps a future first-rounder) and still end up with a solid player like Konz. This could give them a player they still potentially want and give them more picks down the road. (This is also known as the New England Patriots method of drafting.)
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We could also replace Peterman with Konz for a year or two until Raiola eventually calls it quits
Follett you were a beast but I must move on. Let's get on it Mr. Young.
by TheForceOfFollett on Feb 22, 2012 12:35 AM EST reply actions
Yeah
I think our run game is atrocious because of those two. They pass block well….
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The atrocious run game has a lot to do with Cherilus, not Backus.
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I do not hate this pick
In fact in my college ball ignorance I feel slightly better with this than a LT pick.
I just can't get that excited about this pick.
I don’t hate it because I really doubt that the Lions will pick him at # 23. Maybe if he does drop to the second round they might try and move up to get him. Who knows?
"I’m sorry for all the people who want us to run the ball 40 times a game, but we’re going to put the ball in No. 9’s hands and he’s going to make plays for us like he did today," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. Amen to that Jim!
I am all about this
I know he has had a couple injuries but the dude is just a stud. Most importantly, he doesn’t have the occasional game tape where he just gets his ass handed to him like Brewster or Jones does.
He played through the dislocated ankle in the bowl game so toughness is not an issue. The FO would just have to look at how the injuries occurred and either pass on him or chalk it up to typical stuff that happens in football and take him. Getting Konz and extra picks would send me to the moon.
Trade down get a late 1st and a 2nd
lets hope they can trade down because at their 23rd pick i dont see anyone that could step in immediatly and start outside of Konz,Sure would be nice if they could trade with like theSaints,Niners or someone drafting at like 28 or 29 and get that pick and a second also.
This is my choice
We know Dom’s days are numbered and it will take time to fill his shoes. Konz can play both center and guard so he gives us quality depth at two positions and a way to keep pushing Peterman. Fox needs another year plus I don’t really see another left tackle to replace Backus.
I do not see it
We have an aging free agent LT now. A so so RT that will be a free agent next season. Raiola is a FA in 2014. The guy was just named Offensive Lineman of the year by the coaching staff and players. I do not see Mayhew drafting a guy in the 1st round to sit for 2 seasons. Not with the looming Avril and Tulloch situations.
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Yep, thought about that
Backus is done too but I just think that the center is so important that we need to get somebody in now. I don’t see Konz playing behind Peterman but playing ahead of him while he learns from Dom. My hope is that he would be ready in 2013 and Dom can move to backup center and that Peterman, having lost his spot, will pick up his game.
Im with ya on this 1 Bishop
I love most of the Wisconsin O-Line but I don’t see them as auto-matic replacements for anyone on our line. Konz would be a steal in the second round but would be a reach in the first round, I just can’t see him being the BPA at #23 and this regime has drafted who they thought was BPA reguardless of what position a guy plays.
How many lumps you want Doc?
I am just as happy with Ben Jones as I am with Lonz and we could get him in the second or third round.
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First, I loved the idea of Konz
then the idea snuck into my head that his injury history is too alarming.
Then I got attached to Ben Jones
Then some dillweed called him Raiola 2.0 and that scared the shit outta me
I’d be happy if we can get either one, but I’m still nervous about it.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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I may be new at this
But what’s wrong with Raiola 2.0? The guy’s played 11 seasons for us, and the impression I get is that he hasn’t been horrible, but just average to slightly above. That’s a good player.
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by David Tokarz on Feb 22, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
The issue is...
Raiola’s undersized. Undersized Cs are usually work horses, great team leaders, and do “fine.” But they can never compete against the true road grading NTs in the 3-4 and can often have issues with NTs in the 4-3.
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+1
just because we want a different kind of center in no way diminishes my appreciation for the blood, sweat and tears Dom has shed for this organization.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
he hasn’t been horrible
Is that the caption you want on your poster? Raiola has a sexy brain and strong work ethic, those are the ONLY reasons he can even be considered ‘not horrible’. I love Raiola, but I want an upgrade physically because it’s incredibly doubtful any center in the draft will be his equal mentally.
warning these are strictly opinions, I have administered IQ tests to no one.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"I'm not puting that quote on my sig" -Bighaircut, circa 2012
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
It does for me Leo,
There has been 2 standing players in this non-run game we have had since Barry retired, RAYOLA and Backus. If the Lions do go and draft another undersized Center you can kiss any chance of running between the tackles gone for another 10 years. We need to get bigger inside or at least so strong that our C can move those 350 DT’s when he is already engaded with a Guard. Rayola has never been able to do that and I can’t recall to many; if any; undersized Centers ever being good/great run blockers.
How many lumps you want Doc?
I agree
I love Dom, but I want our new Center to be more Mr. Hyde and less Dr. Jekyl.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
I love it
I could very happy with this pick
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not the right guy
If you like a guy with an injury history, Konz is your guy.
Wrong pick. This is classic, “reach for need, and ignore impact players.” There are interior lineman that can make an immediate impact available in the middle rounds.
by Dustin J Quarrella on Feb 22, 2012 7:35 PM EST reply actions
Wrong logic
Quote:
“If you like a guy with an injury history, Konz is your guy.”
By that logic, I guess you would have never drafted Adrian Peterson out of college. Talent trumps an ankle injury past. All players are going to get hurt, if they play long enough.
I am trying to figure out a way for the Lions to wind up with both DeCastro and Konz. What do you think the Lions would have to offer the Browns to get their round 1 pick?
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Guess we should draft a qb as well. Since injury histories matter so much.
by Arrogant on Feb 22, 2012 10:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
don't recall Stafford having injury issues at Georgia
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Konz is overrated like Carami & Moffitt
I don’t know about taking a linemen with injury issues going into the Draft, he’s been injured every year in college! don’t know if that’s such a good idea, Decastro can play the very same position we would be asking Konz to play until Dom calls it’s quits & more than likly be much better & we could find a C later or UDFA.
Knoz injures are a real issue
The Reason he’s a Linemen ,Big Guys that miss Games teams look at all the injuries he’s had & compare them to other players if some guys played with the same injuries he’s had, it would be a Toughness issue, does any body want that?
the pick aside...
I don’t think Raiola has the maturity nor ability to deal with a #1 pick that will take his job. He’ll flat out implode.
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Interesting
the situation would be eerily close to a definition of the word implosion:
the act or action of bringing to or as if to a center
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"I'm not puting that quote on my sig" -Bighaircut, circa 2012
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Rather have Glenn
For some reason I just feel like you can plug Glenn in from day one at Guard, and he will be there 10 years from now. Konz for some reason scares me, as if he can be just meh… Depending on the Avril situation, there are some serious upgrades for us in FA that can be had for decent prices possibly after Carl Nicks breaks the bank. In a perfect world give me a combination of a FA’s (T’s) like Berry Richardson, Adam Snyder, maybe Jared Gaither or (G’s) like Grubbs, Zuttah with a rookie and whatever position we dont bring in from FA along the line and we may be on to something. One man can hope
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