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We attempted to answer if overall athleticism on the offensive line led to NFL success and were not able to come up with a definitive answer. We were, however, able to paint a pretty clear picture that a lack of athleticism will lead to NFL failure. Using an average of the Relative Athletic Scores for all five players on the 2015 offensive lines for all 32 teams, we were able to show that an overall lack of measurable athleticism contributed to a poor running game, poor pass protection, and in general a lack of wins.
It's important to remember that RAS, or Relative Athletic Score, is only a measurement of athleticism using combine and pro day data. It doesn't take into account tape. So you will end up with individual players who do very well but scored very poorly and you will have players who measured in the upper echelon but can't play football well. That's true of any metric you choose. In general, however, the best players also tend to be the best athletes and the best athletes tend to measure well. What we looked at before, and what I'm looking at today, is how that metric can be applied on a larger scale, to see if it can translate into NFL success. So before we get into the projections, here are a few notes on how RAS has been shown to correlate to success for offensive linemen on an individual level.
To get the average RAS that will be included in these tables, we simply averaged all five of the starting linemen. While 5.00 is considered an average score for any position, the average starting OT actually scored a 6.23 out of 10. The average guard scored 6.34, while the average center scored only a 5.56 or just above average. Measurable athleticism has been shown to have a very large correlation to success for both guards and tackles, and almost none for center. The averages for those positions bears that out.
There aren't a lot of great metrics to show success for offensive linemen, but one way we can look at it is using Pro Bowls. Since 2000, there have been 23 offensive tackles who had qualifying RAS that made a Pro Bowl. Of those, 91 percent, or 21 players, measured above average with only two who did not. Guard follows a similar trend, with 16 of the 22 Pro Bowl guards who qualified having scores above average. Center, as I mentioned before, doesn't have as big of a correlation, and only eight of the 14 centers who qualified were above average, just over half. So on an individual level, a player with a higher than average score is more likely to be a recognized, good player than one whose score is below average.
Without further ado, here are the projected 2016 offensive lines in their entirety. This includes all players' individual scores as well as the average, and each team is ranked based upon that average. Note that players with a dash "-" did not have a qualifying RAS.
Rank | TM | Left Tackle | Left Guard | Center | Right Guard | Right Tackle | Average |
1 | PHI | Jason Peters, 8.32 |
Allen Barbre, 8.75 |
Jason Kelce, 9.35 |
Brandon Brooks, 10.00 |
Lane Johnson, 9.92 |
9.27 |
2 | CLE | Joe Thomas, 8.29 |
Joel Bitonio, 9.36 |
Cameron Erving, 9.09 |
John Greco, 5.59 |
Alvin Bailey, 8.56 |
8.18 |
3 | IND | Anthony Castonzo, 8.62 |
Jack Mewhort, 5.69 |
Ryan Kelly, 9.29 |
Hugh Thornton, 9.26 |
Denzelle Good, 6.99 |
7.97 |
4 | TAM | Donovan Smith, 6.94 |
J.R. Sweezy, 9.46 |
Joe Hawley, 4.81 |
Ali Marpet, 9.8 |
Demar Dotson, - |
7.75 |
5 | ATL | Jake Matthews, 8.89 |
Andy Levitre, 3.36 |
Alex Mack, 7.79 |
Chris Chester, 9.43 |
Ryan Schraeder, 9.11 |
7.72 |
6 | NYJ | Ryan Clady, 8.13 |
James Carpenter, 7.25 |
Nick Mangold, 8.57 |
Brian Winters, 7.48 |
Breno Giacomini, 6.67 |
7.62 |
7 | ARI | Jared Veldheer, 9.97 |
Mike Iupati, 4.60 |
A.Q. Shipley, 6.69 |
Evan Mathis, 9.97 |
D.J. Humphries, 6.07 |
7.46 |
8 | GNB | David Bakhtiari, 4.82 |
Josh Sitton, 9.33 |
Corey Linsley, 8.7 |
T.J. Lang, 9.19 |
Bryan Bulaga, 4.96 |
7.40 |
9 | LAR | Greg Robinson, 9.02 |
Rodger Saffold, 8.83 |
Tim Barnes, 7.92 |
Jamon Brown, 9.26 |
Rob Havenstein, 0.92 |
7.19 |
10 | CIN | Andrew Whitworth, 8.16 |
Clint Boling, 7.15 |
Russell Bodine, 6.28 |
Kevin Zeitler, 6.51 |
Cedric Ogbuehi, - |
6.74 |
11 | KAN | Eric Fisher, 9.67 |
Jarrod Pughsley, 7.49 |
Mitch Morse, 9.03 |
Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, - |
Mitchell Schwartz, 0.68 |
6.72 |
12 | CHI | Charles Leno, 5.39 |
Cody Whitehair, 7.38 |
Hroniss Grasu, 6.82 |
Kyle Long, 9.53 |
Bobby Massie, 4.28 |
6.68 |
13 | DAL | Tyron Smith, 9.19 |
Zack Martin, 8.22 |
Travis Frederick, 1.17 |
La'El Collins, 5.94 |
Doug Free, 8.73 |
6.65 |
14 | TEN | Taylor Lewan, 10.00 |
Quinton Spain, 8.76 |
Ben Jones, 2.99 |
Chance Warmack, 1.31 |
Jack Conklin, 8.54 |
6.32 |
15 | NEP | Nate Solder, 9.76 |
Shaq Mason, 8.83 |
Bryan Stork, 1.49 |
Tre' Jackson, 0.47 |
Sebastian Vollmer, 9.95 |
6.10 |
16 | SNF | Joe Staley, 9.86 |
Zane Beadles, - |
Daniel Kilgore, 5.34 |
Joshua Garnett, 6.78 |
Trenton Brown, 1.87 |
5.96 |
17 | NOS | Terron Armstead, 9.43 |
Tim Lelito, 7.02 |
Max Unger, 3.38 |
Andrus Peat, 8.76 |
Zach Strief, 1.17 |
5.95 |
18 | MIN | Matt Kalil, 8.02 |
Alex Boone, 6.99 |
Joe Berger, 4.61 |
Brandon Fusco, 7.99 |
Phil Loadholt, 1.33 |
5.79 |
19 | HOU | Duane Brown, 7.37 |
Xavier Su'a-Filo, 7.75 |
Nick Martin, 5.71 |
Jeff Allen, 2.51 |
Derek Newton, 4.91 |
5.65 |
20 | BAL | Eugene Monroe, 2.68 |
Ryan Jensen, 6.11 |
Jeremy Zuttah, 7.83 |
Marshal Yanda, 8.29 |
Ricky Wagner, 2.93 |
5.57 |
21 | WAS | Trent Williams, 9.32 |
Spencer Long, - |
Kory Lichtensteiger, 2.34 |
Brandon Scherff, 9.63 |
Morgan Moses, 0.89 |
5.55 |
22 | SEA | Garry Gilliam, 9.02 |
Rees Odhiambo, 2.95 |
Patrick Lewis, 1.88 |
J'Marcus Webb, 5.85 |
Germain Ifedi, 7.62 |
5.46 |
23 | CAR | Michael Oher, 2.66 |
Andrew Norwell, 3.62 |
Ryan Kalil, 8.51 |
Trai Turner, 5.5 |
Mike Remmers, 5.55 |
5.17 |
24 | DEN | Russell Okung, 6.75 |
Max Garcia, 3.44 |
Matt Paradis, 3.51 |
Robert Myers, 2.82 |
Donald Stephenson, 8.94 |
5.09 |
25 | NYG | Ereck Flowers, 4.39 |
Justin Pugh, 8.03 |
Weston Richburg, 4.74 |
Bobby Hart, 0.97 |
Marshall Newhouse, 6.64 |
4.95 |
26 | SDC | King Dunlap, 5.04 |
Orlando Franklin, 5.69 |
Matt Slauson, 7.47 |
D.J. Fluker, 2.71 |
Joe Barksdale, 3.28 |
4.84 |
27 | BUF | Cordy Glenn, 3.77 |
Richie Incognito, 8.56 |
Eric Wood, 8.12 |
John Miller, 2.25 |
Jordan Mills, 1.36 |
4.81 |
28 | MIA | Branden Albert, 5.53 |
Dallas Thomas, - |
Mike Pouncey, 3.18 |
Laremy Tunsil, - |
JaWuan James, 5.66 |
4.79 |
29 | JAX | Kelvin Beachum, 0.7 |
Mackenzy Bernadeau, 7.79 |
Brandon Linder, 4.03 |
A.J. Cann, - |
Luke Joeckel, 5.93 |
4.17 |
30 | OAK | Donald Penn, - |
Gabe Jackson, 3.99 |
Rodney Hudson, 0.45 |
Kelechi Osemele, 5.69 |
Austin Howard, 5.37 |
3.88 |
31 | PIT | Alejandro Villanueva, - |
Ramon Foster, 0.5 |
Maurkice Pouncey, 2.86 |
David DeCastro, 7.32 |
Marcus Gilbert, 2.82 |
3.38 |
32 | DET | Riley Reiff, 3.55 |
Laken Tomlinson, 3.39 |
Travis Swanson, 2.92 |
Larry Warford, 1.28 |
Taylor Decker, 5.45 |
3.32 |
Yes, Detroit Lions fans, your team still holds that bottom spot. Based on the most likely starting offensive line for 2016, the only new player is Taylor Decker, and he replaces Michael Ola who had the highest RAS for the line in 2015. The slight bump from adding Decker wasn't enough to push the Lions out of last place, and nobody else fell far enough to make it any less concerning.
In 2015 there were only six teams whose average RAS was below 5.00, which for this metric is considered average. Pittsburgh Steelers, San Diego Chargers, Miami Dolphins,Oakland Raiders, Tennessee Titans, and Detroit Lions were those six teams, in order from least bad to worst. Of these teams, only the Raiders finished higher than 21st in any PFF category, while only the Steelers finished with a winning record. Also, with the exception of the Steelers, each of these teams finished in the bottom 10 for rushing. Oakland and Pittsburgh ranked 11th for sacks allowed, while the other four teams ranked 21st or lower (Tennessee was dead last). It was pretty clear that no matter what metric you used, teams that ended below that 5.00 line as a group tended to be some of the worst blocking teams in the NFL.
So what can they do to raise that score up? Well, for the Lions it was fairly simple, but I wanted to go a step further. I wanted to project a 'best case' scenario, something that took into account the draft and free agency to look at what the best possible lineup could be. I did this from a play and value perspective, not just a RAS perspective, so as to not artificially raise the score in some unrealistic way. As a completionist, I couldn't just do this for Detroit. So I reached out to the SB Nation community and others I know from social media to find out what a Best Case Offensive Line would look like for all 32 teams. It's important to note that this was best case from those who know their teams, not just picking the highest RAS and taking a stab at it. In some instances, the best case OL actually has a lower average RAS than the regular projected line. In any case, here is that list for every team.
Rank | Team | Left Tackle | Left Guard | Center | Right Guard | Right Tackle | Average |
1 | PHI | Jason Peters, 8.32 |
Isaac Seumalo, 7.11 |
Jason Kelce, 9.35 |
Brandon Brooks, 10 |
Lane Johnson, 9.92 |
8.94 |
2 | IND | Anthony Castonzo, 8.62 |
Jack Mewhort, 5.69 |
Ryan Kelly, 9.29 |
Hugh Thornton, 9.26 |
Denzelle Good, 6.99 |
8.54 |
3 | CLE | Joe Thomas, 8.29 |
Joel Bitonio, 9.36 |
Cameron Erving, 9.09 |
John Greco, 5.59 |
Shon Coleman, - |
8.08 |
4 | TAM | Donovan Smith, 6.94 |
J.R. Sweezy, 9.46 |
Joe Hawley, 4.81 |
Ali Marpet, 9.8 |
Demar Dotson, - |
7.75 |
5 | ATL | Jake Matthews, 8.89 |
Andy Levitre, 3.36 |
Alex Mack, 7.79 |
Chris Chester, 9.43 |
Ryan Schraeder, 9.11 |
7.72 |
6 | NYJ | Ryan Clady, 8.13 |
James Carpenter, 7.25 |
Nick Mangold, 8.57 |
Brian Winters, 7.48 |
Breno Giacomini, 6.67 |
7.62 |
7 | GNB | David Bakhtiari, 4.82 |
Josh Sitton, 9.33 |
Corey Linsley, 8.7 |
T.J. Lang, 9.19 |
Bryan Bulaga, 4.96 |
7.40 |
8 | NEP | Nate Solder, 9.76 |
Shaq Mason, 8.83 |
Bryan Stork, 1.49 |
Jonathan Cooper, 6.85 | Sebastian Vollmer, 9.95 |
7.38 |
9 | WAS | Trent Williams, 9.32 |
Spencer Long, - |
Austin Reiter, 9.09 |
Brandon Scherff, 9.63 |
Morgan Moses, 0.89 |
7.23 |
10 | LAR | Greg Robinson, 9.02 |
Cody Wichmann, 8.9 |
Tim Barnes, 7.92 |
Jamon Brown, 9.26 |
Rob Havenstein, 0.92 |
7.20 |
11 | HOU | Duane Brown, 7.37 |
Xavier Su'a-Filo, 7.75 |
Nick Martin, 5.71 |
David Quessenberry, 8.73 | Derek Newton, 4.91 |
6.89 |
12 | CIN | Andrew Whitworth, 8.16 |
Clint Boling, 7.15 |
Christian Westerman, 4.61 | Kevin Zeitler, 6.51 |
Cedric Ogbuehi, - |
6.86 |
13 | CHI | Charles Leno, 5.39 |
Cody Whitehair, 7.38 |
Hroniss Grasu, 6.82 |
Kyle Long, 9.53 |
Bobby Massie, 4.28 |
6.68 |
14 | DAL | Tyron Smith, 9.19 |
Zack Martin, 8.22 |
Travis Frederick, 1.17 |
La'El Collins, 5.94 |
Doug Free, 8.73 |
6.65 |
15 | SEA | Garry Gilliam, 9.02 |
Mark Glowinski, 8.86 |
Patrick Lewis, 1.88 |
J'Marcus Webb, 5.85 |
Germain Ifedi, 7.62 |
6.65 |
16 | KAN | Eric Fisher, 9.67 |
Parker Ehinger, 6.61 |
Mitch Morse, 9.03 |
Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, - |
Mitchell Schwartz, 0.68 |
6.50 |
17 | DEN | Russell Okung, 6.75 |
Max Garcia, 3.44 |
Matt Paradis, 3.51 |
Connor McGovern, 9.7 |
Donald Stephenson, 8.94 |
6.47 |
18 | ARI | Jared Veldheer, 9.97 |
Mike Iupati, 4.60 |
Evan Boehm, 1.43 |
Evan Mathis, 9.97 |
D.J. Humphries, 6.07 |
6.41 |
19 | TEN | Taylor Lewan, 10 |
Quinton Spain, 8.76 |
Ben Jones, 2.99 |
Chance Warmack, 1.31 |
Jack Conklin, 8.54 |
6.32 |
20 | SNF | Joe Staley, 9.86 |
Zane Beadles, - |
Daniel Kilgore, 5.34 |
Joshua Garnett, 6.78 |
Trenton Brown, 1.87 |
5.96 |
21 | BAL | Ronnie Stanley, 4.07 |
Ryan Jensen, 6.11 |
Jeremy Zuttah, 7.83 |
Marshal Yanda, 8.29 |
Ricky Wagner, 2.93 |
5.85 |
22 | BUF | Cordy Glenn, 3.77 |
Richie Incognito, 8.56 |
Eric Wood, 8.12 |
John Miller, 2.25 |
Seantrel Henderson, 6.12 | 5.76 |
23 | NOS | Terron Armstead, 9.43 |
Tim Lelito, 7.02 |
Max Unger, 3.38 |
Landon Turner, 0.7 |
Andrus Peat, 7.59 |
5.62 |
24 | DET | Taylor Decker, 5.45 |
Laken Tomlinson, 3.39 |
Graham Glasgow, 7.47 |
Joe Dahl, 7.99 |
Riley Reiff, 3.55 |
5.57 |
25 | SDC | King Dunlap, 5.04 |
Orlando Franklin, 5.69 |
Max Tuerk, - |
Matt Slauson, 8.12 |
Joe Barksdale, 3.28 |
5.53 |
26 | NYG | Ereck Flowers, 4.39 |
Justin Pugh, 8.03 |
Weston Richburg, 4.74 |
Bobby Hart, 0.97 |
Marshall Newhouse, 6.64 |
4.95 |
27 | MIN | Matt Kalil, 8.02 |
Alex Boone, 6.99 |
John Sullivan, 5.45 |
Mike Harris, 2.72 |
Phil Loadholt, 1.33 |
4.90 |
28 | MIA | Branden Albert, 5.53 |
Dallas Thomas, - |
Mike Pouncey, 3.18 |
Laremy Tunsil, - |
JaWuan James, 5.66 |
4.79 |
29 | JAX | Kelvin Beachum, 0.7 |
Mackenzy Bernadeau, 7.79 |
Brandon Linder, 4.03 |
A.J. Cann, - |
Luke Joeckel, 5.93 |
4.61 |
30 | CAR | Michael Oher, 2.66 |
Andrew Norwell, 3.62 |
Ryan Kalil, 8.51 |
Trai Turner, 5.5 |
Daryl Williams, 0.95 |
4.25 |
31 | OAK | Donald Penn, - |
Gabe Jackson, 3.99 |
Rodney Hudson, 0.45 |
Kelechi Osemele, 5.69 |
Austin Howard, 5.37 |
3.88 |
32 | PIT | Alejandro Villanueva, - |
Ramon Foster, 0.5 |
Maurkice Pouncey, 2.86 |
David DeCastro, 7.32 |
Marcus Gilbert, 2.82 |
3.38 |
For the Lions, removing Travis Swanson as a starter is almost a certainty in some fans' minds. We here at Pride of Detroit are mixed on the subject, but it is neither out of the realm of possibility nor anything resembling crazy talk. What may give some pause to this 'best case' projection is the replacement of Larry Warford with Joe Dahl. Warford has been a stalwart blocker on the offensive line since he stormed onto the scene as a rookie, but has been plagued with injuries since that time. While Dahl played tackle and left guard in college, in Jim Bob Cooter's scheme he would be more suited to the right guard position. His lack of length probably prevents him from being an option at tackle, and his inexperience with run blocking concepts probably keeps him away from the left side where Laken Tomlinson was drafted as much due to his intelligence and football acumen as he was his blocking style.
The important thing with this projection is that it gets the Detroit Lions out of that sub 5.00 average that was indicative of so many bad teams in 2015. That alone wouldn't be enough to improve the Detroit Lions as either a pass or run blocking team, but it's possible it could provide enough push to get them over the hump. It could also be a huge disaster, as that would mean three rookies on the offensive line. Bob Quinn has shown with his selections of Decker, Glasgow, and Dahl that he has a dedication to making the offensive line better and more athletic. The best guess projection for the offensive line is a baby step in the right direction, the 'best case' outlined above is jumping both feet first without a net.
What do you think, Detroit Lions fans? Do you think it's enough to simply become more athletic, or do you feel something else is the cause of the team's offensive woes? Have any better projections you'd like to share? Let us know in the comments who you think would be the best options. For a fun little bonus, here is the team's entire offensive line group and what their RAS is, you can figure out the average from that.
Player Name | Position | RAS |
Graham Glasgow | OC | 7.47 |
Gabe Ikard | OC | 7.92 |
Travis Swanson | OC | 2.92 |
Joe Dahl | OG | 7.99 |
Chase Farris | OG | 2.62 |
Geoff Schwartz | OG | 4.93 |
Laken Tomlinson | OG | 3.39 |
Larry Warford | OG | 1.28 |
Andrew Zeller | OG | 9.56 |
Taylor Decker | OT | 5.45 |
Cornelius Lucas | OT | - |
Michael Ola | OT | 5.12 |
Riley Reiff | OT | 3.55 |
Corey Robinson | OT | 5.75 |