This one’s not going to sit well in our guts, much like bad orange chicken. Trust me, there’s talk of food on this PODcast, but you’re going to have to get through our commiserations about this Lions team before you do that.

The comeback against the Saints was meaningless, and the Lions are hurting in a bad way. This game wasn’t good and we chomp through it all, and along the way we tend to yell at each other. It’s what friends do.

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This week on the PODcast

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• Ryan hates football.
• Jeremy lays this one on the defense.
• Was Jim Caldwell’s decision-making something particularly offensive in this game? Should this game cost one of the coaches their job?
• With Aaron Rodgers potentially out for the season, the NFC North is wide-open. How does PODcast see it shaking out? We re-rank the division.
• Mailbag uncovers Jeremy’s meal of desperation.